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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 196 points 1 day ago (18 children)

That's because hormonal birth control for women takes advantage of existing biological processes to prevent pregnancy.

Men don't have any known biological processes that can be utilized like that, although it's been consistently studied for decades.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And there is some progress too afaik

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 51 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There's been "progress" every few years for decades. Male birth control is basically the medical equivalent of battery technology.

I'll believe it when a pill makes it to market.

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Just like cold fusion

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[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I had thought that another part of it was the levels of harm compared to the problem; getting pregnant is incredibly stressful and possibly harmful, up to and including death as a possibility. A medicine that can stop that but has side affects that are less harmful than pregnancy is a lot more palatable. Whereas, for men, the harm caused by pregnancy is zero, so any harm caused by the pill is weighed a lot heavier.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's really frustrating how often this gets framed as sexist, when it's a totally different problem. I get why people would equate them but they are very different biological processes. Producing a baby is a complicated process, and there's a lot of steps that we can intervene in to prevent it. Producing a million sperm is, maybe surprisingly, less complicated and it's harder to target a specific thing and produce easily reversible results.

Men have had vasectomy on the table for a long time now. It's just more serious than most forms of female birth control, in terms of implementation and recovery, still not foolproof, and not as easy to reverse.

Even more frustrating is that sexism definitely does exist and play a role. It's just more about the human parts of the process, like dealing with medical staff, dealing with insurance, dealing with local, state, and now federal governments that want to bar access to women. Looking at the pill side is misplacing the anger.

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Weird how it seems like it's all for women and safe sex but then criticizes a tool women have to checks notes take control of their sex lives and make decisions about getting pregnant.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I not sure I can impregnate 9 women in a day but I'm willing to participate in a scientific study to find out if anyone is doing that.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

starts doing warmup stretches

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 44 points 21 hours ago (13 children)

I'm not sure who's she targeting because I know a lot of guys who would love to have birth control pills.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It ain't like pharma ain't been trying to make male birth control pills. Lord knows they'd love the extra money.

But it turns out to be damn difficult to get right.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Those 9 men could prevent women getting pregnant by cumming in me instead.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 41 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Dumb. It's a lot easier to stop one egg a month, than zillions of sperm multiple times a day. Simple as that.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago

Not only that, there's an interruptible cycle of egg release. There's no regular interruptible cycle in men.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago (17 children)

Not everything is a conspiracy against women

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 38 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How does this unscientific instagram vomit has 500 votes on lemmy? Are we turning into reddit?

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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 37 points 1 day ago (11 children)

This is just logically wrong.

If birth control was only made for men, and 90% of men were on birth control, you could end up with far more pregnancies than if it's for women and 90% of women were on it.

The conclusion is exactly the opposite of the argument.

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[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's the woman who'd get pregnant and who doesn't want to. Should she rely on whether the men took their pills correctly? Taking hormones sucks for many women, but they're happy to be able to have birth control in their hands.

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Yeah, I think people forget why the pill was such a game changer: It allowed women, without the permission or knowledge of their husband/sexual partner, to decide whether or not they wanted to get pregnant.

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 34 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (9 children)

Counterpoint: a woman taking birthcontrol is empowered because she is taking charge of her own reproduction. She doesn't have to rely on or trust the man to take his pill. After all, she would be the one bearing most of the burden in case of an unwanted pregnancy.

Additionally, purely biologically it is much easier to reliably stop conception on the female side than on the male side. A woman only produces one egg cell per month, whereas a man produces millions of sperm cells per day.

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[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The most commonly produced, available, and used birth control method worldwide is the latex condom, used by everyone who has a penis. Try again.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If the numbers were correct and your aim was to reduce pregnancies, you could prevent 90% of pregnancies by getting roughly 90% of sexually active women to take the pill. Getting 99.95% of sexually active men to take the pill would have NO effect whatsoever on the pregnancy rate, because the remaining 1 in 2000 men would continue to meet and impregnate a woman roughly once every hour for roughly 12 hours a day (with breaks for food and resting his dick a tiny bit) for 9 months straight, with time to visit 430 women a second time in case these miracle impregnators somehow didn't always impregnate on first meeting a woman. (This would very drastically reduce diversity in the gene pool and the world would be very very very badly interbred within two generations.)

But of course humans don't behave like the numbers suggest AT ALL, thank goodness.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The Lemmycels are pretty angry at this one, but on the other hand it's pretty silly to trust dudes with birth control when you're the one that gets pregnant.

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[–] TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol 28 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] Laser@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago

Nowhere does it say you have to limit yourself to that

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[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 27 points 13 hours ago

Nah, this isn't a great point at all.... even at face value really.

Put slightly differently, if we're assuming people sleep around as much as the text implies, if we focus on birth control solely for men, then one 'failure'/non-controlled man would result in a ton of pregnancies. If the onus is on women, then one 'failure'/non-controlled woman would result in one pregnancy.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got snipped so my wife didn't have to do the hormonal bullshit. Her doctor is putting her back in it because women's bodies literally do not want them to be happy.

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[–] Lightsong@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] recarsion@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Someone tell her condoms exist and it's men's job to buy and wear them. Prevention is both genders responsibility. If they make a pill for men I'll happily take it.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

9!? You think I can cum 9 times a day!? And apparently hit the egg every fucking time too? I don't mean to question the conclusion because I think birth control should be both parties' responsibility, but I think your premise reveals a distinct lack of grasp on biological reality. Why stop at 9? Why not 900? Really drive your point home! My dick is going to be useless after number 2 or 3 anyway.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

"hit the egg" 🤣😂😭

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] zout@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A man's got to eat some time you know.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's easier to prevent ovulation of one egg than stop a billion sperm cells from reaching their destination. Stop politicising biology.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

So in this imaginary never ending orgy it would still make sense for the women to take the pill because if 99% of the men do the other 1% will somehow make every single women pregnant.

9 times per day... So ok. You know how women love to give men shit for having a poor understanding is basic female biology? This is that.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 18 points 14 hours ago

The one who gets pregnant should probably take the birth control, as pregnancy would be more bothersome for them than for the other person.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Just FYI after the 5th one I'm just cumming air at that point, but if there are 2,430 women out there who want to give it a try anyway be my guest.

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[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Genghis Khan has entered the chat

[–] Tabooki@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (19 children)

It's not like they haven't tried. Most men would love to be able to ensure they don't get snared. 😉

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I'm seeing is I can seed my own country if I try hard enough.

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