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You know, I thought it was gone, spent my youth watching bands in garages and stuff, didn't hear much about that anymore, community radio station still around.

But then my high schooler asked me to take her to a show in a church. A what? But we went and oh my goodness underground music is absolutely still around. There was a mosh pit, I wished I'd brought earplugs, way too loud for the space but there was a punk band, a speed metal band, and the band she went to see was the headliner - all local bands. It is still there, you just aren't part of that world anymore.

subversive punk is still around. It's still politically leftist. Jeff Rosenstock and his fans are pretty anarchist in ethos. Go to one of his shows, you'll find a whole lot of messaging about solidarity, mutual aid, building better world, fuck the police, etc. His lyrics aren't always about politics but they have an anti authoritarian edge.

There's Infinity Knives x Brian Ennals who are mixing punk and hip hop in a very in your face political way and theyre GREAT.

Viagra boys are a pop punk who satirize the alt-right, especially in their album Cave World.

Mount Eerie is a noisy folk band that dabbles in some punk aesthetic -- their most recent albums contains themes of decolonization and anti-war.

Honningbarna just came out with an amazing record called Soft Spot that has some leftist political themes, but not as overt as the others. Amazing sound though. Maybe more Hardcore than punk.

There is no centralized counter culture because the media landscape is so different now. There's no radio to all listen to together. Communities are pretty isolated online. There are advantages and disadvantages. At the very least, decentralization of the counter culture prevents it from ever being squashed completely. On the other hand, decentralization makes it harder for people to see, and cause them to lose hope and feel alone. But as another said, you're here, aren't you?

Plenty of punk and punk adjacent music still around, lots of local shows still occur if you know where to look. I'm in the U.S. but can say for sure this stuff is still happening here and other countries too.

Bob Vylan and Kneecap were banned from the U.S. earlier this year and Zionists are still going around trying to get their shows cancelled just for speaking out on Palestine.

In general Zionists seem to be easily triggered, last year while on their tour playing a show in New Jersey Apes of the State had a big FREE PALESTINE banner at their shows and some guy at the venue flipped out and tried to take it down.

On tour last month in the U.S. Bad Cop/Bad Cop was selling FUCK ICE shirts while the other band on tour with them (The Iron Roses) were speaking out on LGBTQ issues and the general fucked state the U.S. is in right now.

Later this weekend Leftover Crack is playing a show in Brooklyn, I'm sure they'll have plenty to say on the current state of things.

Youre here aren't you? Why do you think theyre called subcultures? Punk/punk idealogy was never mainstream until it was tamed, domesticated, and commercialized decades later

Furries and trans people.

Here are 5 current day punk bands that I like. All are available on bandcamp.

• The Upfucks
• False Flag
• Generacion Suicida
• Total Massacre
• Hans Gruber and the Die Hards.

What is Lemmy to you but an anti-authoritarian counter movement to technocracy and surveillance culture? I'd say FOSS is pretty punk as well in this regard

First, punk is where it's always been: in the streets, the boroughs, in the young people that are discovering how trashy this world and society are... I've been out of the scene for quite a while, but from time to time I do still go to some concert or other events.

Second, Edelweiss is not anti authoritarian, or anti right wing at all, even if it's meant as a 'fuck you' to the nazis. It's a nationalist song sung by a member of the Austrian military. For context, the Austrian right was divided on this matter, with the Austrian fascist party being staunchly against the Anschluss. Julie Andrews rocks, though.

I consider Bob Vylan to be modern punk. Also Hang Youth.

Julie Andrews didn't sing Edelweiss, that was Captain Von Trapp's song. He's the Punk you should admire.

The chats amyl and the sniffers The viagra boys (more kind of 80s dance punk revival)

Music has been captured by business now more than ever. I think you'll be be very hard pushed to find anyone who can make a living from music that would meet everyone's definition of a strong message etc. now. So, mines a lot less that and just more punk now.

rising up against all of this

Does Rise Against count?

I am not a good gatekeeper of "mainstream" or "sellout" etc but this feels like a hostile thread so I guess criticism is incoming.

I feel like the entirety of RA's discography fits this theme perfectly. The songwriting is part of why I can't get enough.

(I can't speak for their recent Ricochet album - the sound quality is poor and lots of fans hate it; we hope we get a rerecording some day. Set aside Ricochet and I feel like you can't go wrong with anything else of theirs.)

Trying to list deeper cuts that might be good hooks:

Album / Song:

The Black Market / Bridges
The Black Market / People Live Here
Endgame / Disparity by Design
Endgame / Midnight Hands
Endgame / A Gentleman's Coup
Nowhere Generation / The Numbers
Nowhere Generation / Sudden Urge
EP Nowhere Generation II / Holding Patterns
Wolves / Welcome to the Breakdown
Appeal to Reason / Entertainment
EP / Megaphone

And you can't go wrong with the back to back tracks "Prayer of the Refugee" followed by "Drones" from the album The Sufferer and the Witness.

Even older albums have good stuff but I didn't list them since idk if you'd call them "modern". Tip the Scales + Give It All are good tracks.

Jesse Welles would be the modern cycle.

Distorted guitars carried the torch from the protest songs of the 70s through punk and peaked with prog metal in the late 00s. We're snapping straight back to the 70s protest songs and doing it all over again.

Venezuela slapped.

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War isn't Murder the hit that got him known

I listen to lots of punk music, especially in the electronic space. But I think people want to see another hardcore movement.

Really I see most people who actually try to make their own art as punk. The techno-fascists just want you to be complacent and consume content.

Left folk and punk arent the same thing. Folk punk however is awesome. Reject society, learn the banjo

I have some hope we’ll see it in young progressive “traditional country” artists.

It's hard to break into the mainstream when the mainstream is increasingly owned by rich assholes. They have a lot of influence over culture. Not total control , but enough that many people who might have found punk instead brain rot through their day in Spotify or tiktok or whatever.

Speaking of Edelweiss, this is a very disturbing music-video version of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASPURee4dJ4

(It's the Man in the High Castle Intro Song, about an alt-universe where the axis won WW2.)

She'll Hunt - Banning Books

Macklemore - Fucked Up