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Porn is everywhere. 80 percent of the web is porn. There’s porn here on Lemmy and on Mastodon. It seems like a whack-a-mole situation .

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[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

The same way they banned drugs. Not very well.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conservatives have been labeling anything and everything they don't like as "porn". A queer romance novel is "porn". Two male characters kissing on television is "porn". Drag queen story time is "porn". The picture book Heather Has Two Mommies is "porn". And the thing they're really most afraid of, educational resources for LGBTQ youth are "porn".

So by declaring porn illegal, they now have a pretext to go after everything they call "porn". Their goal isn't to remove all porn from the internet, it's to make it harder for people who need those educational resources to access them. It's not about porn, it's about "porn".

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

It’s not about porn, it’s about ~~“porn”~~ controlling the population.

FTFY. It's always about authoritarianism and control of the people.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As you've accurately identified, they can't. Best they have is say "nooo you can't" and hope sites comply out of pure fear. Even if they could, VPN.

They also completely bungled prohibition, drug prohibition, and the states with restrictive gun laws are bungling that. And women from the anti abortion states can still get out of state abortions.

Bans don't actually work, especially when there's already an abundance and the banned thing in question is easy to produce.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will just add how Republicans try to ban everything they don't like, but when it comes to banning guns they are like "Bans Don't Work!"

The point is that Republicans never do anything in good faith. It's always lies and hypocrisy.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh I agree with them on that, bans don't work.

But also I say the same to them regarding the ones they do want. Just because they're hypocrites doesn't mean I have to be!

Ban bans lol.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Bans implemented poorly don't work. And it also depends on what you consider a success. Can you ban anything 100 %? No, but that doesn't mean some shit should not be banned

[–] AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You’re 100% correct, this is totally a whack-a-mole situation. Some websites follow the law, and some don’t. I have no intention of sharing not only my identity, but sensitive data to access these websites. I use a VPN to bypass this on those websites that comply.

This is getting out of hand. I feel that we have more government in areas it absolutely doesn’t belong, and not enough where it belongs.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel that we have more government in areas it absolutely doesn’t belong, and not enough where it belongs.

smALl GovERnmEnT

[–] AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you care to elaborate? I can’t figure out what exactly it is you’re trying to say here.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Republicans are traditionally, and on paper, the party of "small government". "Fuck off feds, it's none of your business" type shit. Some just wanted a small central government that let states and local government make their own choices, some wanted as small a government as possible at all levels.

Which is also why you see a minority of old school republican voters refusing to call Trump's clown show republican.

That capitalization style is meant to be mocking, because the current dipshits in power clearly don't have any intentions of "small government".

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

That's their marketing. They've never actually been for small government. They want too much to control everything everyone they don't like does

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Government that wants to spy on you but can't directly prohibit encryption, so this is the work around. Prohibit porn, people go for VPN. Oohh, now we have to prohibit VPN which we can't because its a required tool plus it's really hard to prohibit.. so what else can we do, then? Government backdoor keys ftw!

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't they get the common VPN IP and just block them

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Porn sites don't really want to comply with the ID laws. They're doing just enough to not get fined by the Land of the Free. They want you to use a VPN so they can continue to have your business without dealing with the ID bullshit. If your IP is not in a bible state they have no reason to believe that they must comply.

[–] AsoFiafia@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I shall cross that bridge when I get to it. For now, it works.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More like whack-a-hole am I right?

I’ll see myself out.

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It is impossible. US states make the law, and require the websites to self-block the IP addresses within the state using geo-ip. It's a flawed solution, but comes with the benefit of being able to sue any semi-large website for not self-blocking and the state receives free fine money. Best part is the state doesn't actually have to do anything, just pass the law and rake in the publicity.

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

You can block anything if you're stupid enough to think it's going to work.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 week ago

It isn't a ban so much as being able to legally go after people who evade the ban.

If you are a reputable company in the right jurisdiction, you can be sued by the state for operating illegally. That is likely enough to get companies to block the state's IP addresses.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

It's all a big plan to bring sex and rape back into real life public parks and bathrooms.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)
  1. Regulate all traffic sent or received across the state.
  2. Send traffic through a firewall.
  3. decrypt traffic
  4. drop traffic that can’t be decrypted.

Another easier way:

  1. Regulate ISPs with new state laws.
  2. require they block porn.
  3. Sue ISPs that violate the law.
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

decrypt traffic

drop traffic that can’t be decrypted.

This would be an absolute fucking disaster for myriad reasons both technical and practical. Any politician who earnestly suggests it as any sort of solution 100% has no idea what they're talking about and should not be taken seriously.

Yes, politicians talk about trying to do something like that, but the reality is that it would destroy security for businesses, institutions, and even the government itself. Encryption and VPNs are crucial to just about any modern business of even moderate size.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many US companies have businesses inside China, it’s bad but it’s not impossible. I wouldn’t be surprised if a state actually doesn’t.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those also companies use VPNs when they transmit, bring burner devices, and take other countermeasures to try protect their data from theft.

Additionally, there are plenty of people who are citizens there and still get around their firewall.

Actually getting rid of encryption or making it ineffective would be a disaster: IP theft, identity theft, and all sorts of other problems would greatly intensify without it.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I agree, but I was answering OPs question on how it would be done and an example of similar tech already in use at scale.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Aka, the great Chinese firewall

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hiding data in innocuous data could also work, eg by altering the pixel values of images subtly

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 week ago

That's really hard to do over https.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really hope to see official declare a "war on porn". Considering how terrorism and drugs won the previous two, I'm sure it's gonna be a fun watch from the sidelines.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

I don't know if terrorism or drugs have "won." The government is able to use them to fuck up the lives of people who they don't like... see venezuela and what they're trying to do with antifa.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 5 points 1 week ago

!askusa@discuss.online

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Send state troopers into ISPs and force them to things at gunpoint.