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Sadly, most Americans have very short attention spans and will soon forget what the shutdown was about and will be more concerned with a short term crisis than long term health care worries. My worry is the Republicans know this, after all they manufactured this nation's eroded attention span and used it to gain power already.

It's actually worse. With the pocket recision that has already been used, the administration has literally demonstrated that they will rescind any deal they don't want to pay for. Frankly, the only way to negotiate in good faith would be some legal measure passed and tested by the courts (because the pocket recision used to be illegal until this SCOTUS ruled in favor of it, like just in time for this budget needing to be passed), guaranteeing that the administration will fund what Congress has appropriated funds for.

He's just appeasing the Nazis. It worked back in WW2

Maine is working on it, at least.

the government gets thrown away because it was closed for so long.

Is that a real possibility? How does that actually work? Is there a new election triggered automatically if the government was shut down for 6-8 months?

If not, you will most likely be waiting and hoping forever, all the while things just keep getting worse.

Possibly to the point where the pot boils over and the government gets thrown away because it was closed for so long.

Lovely notion, but realistically... who is going to do the "throwing away?" There's no system above our government. We don't have a deal with Britain that they'll come back if we can't manage our country. There's no real such thing as law above a nation.

Instead we have thousands of aspiring political leaders on both sides who will see ANY vacancy of power as an opportunity. They're jockeying right now like Mad Max behind the scenes, but instead of tricked out cars with spikes, it's committees, delegations and policy wonkery to get prepared for the midterms which are still a year away.

I am only saying all this because you and your friend's sentiment is common and needs to be adjusted... Nobody is coming.

I feel like a dramatic dissolution should be a possibility considered, but I don't really expect us to come out of it with a new people-focused government. Likely if the budget never gets passed Trump decides he doesn't need Congress and just starts spending money as he wishes. He'll even start with funding something the people want, then once it's established that he can just spend money and no one will stop him, he'll move on to the instruments of oppression. When the military is directly being paid by the president, we'll see how much of their oath is really to the Constitution.

I just feel bad though now that others have to stand in a food line. But I agree.

That depends on whether someone in PA can assemble the resources needed to primary him.

Oct 16 - Daily Beast

Top-ranking Democratic Party officials in Pennsylvania are gearing up to run against Sen. John Fetterman in a 2028 primary contest, according to a report.

Big names in the state who could well run against the increasingly embattled incumbent include House Representatives Brendan Boyle and Chris Deluzio, along with former Congressman Conor Lamb, Axios reports, citing multiple inside sources.

Axios added it was not clear whether Fetterman, who is understood to have ambitions of running for the White House, plans to run again for the Senate or the presidency in 2028.

Fetterman texted Axios saying, “enjoy your clickbait!” and requested “please do not contact” in response to follow-up questions. He also shared an article citing him as one of “the least Trump-aligned Democratic lawmakers in the state.”

We literally do, though. We negotiate all the fucking time. Reagan was negotiating with terrorists when he said that.

Why hasn't he been kicked out yet?

....what? Are you sure you've been to Pennsylvania?

Fetterman can get fucked though, I'm with you there