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I'm pretty sure they used the word shareholder value one too many times and people brought out the noose.

The $800 PC will also last longer

What a stupid take

Right, so it works real well if you already know where you're going.

I mean that's where this conversation started: osm works fine if you already know where you're going.

I don't know anything about where you live, but traffic is wildly variable where I am and so I need it. Note I'm not one of those people who uses their gps to go to the grocery store, we're talking journeys of 30+ minutes, usually 60+, on interstates. Yeah if you're going to trader joes the traffic doesn't matter, but I sincerely hope people aren't whipping out gps to drive 10 minutes to somewhere they've been hundreds of times.

I really don't why everyone is trying so fucking hard to convince me to switch. I have multiple osm apps installed to my phone at all times. They just don't work well in any of the places I've lived in the last decade.

You're also seemingly of the belief I haven't added data to the maps, which is wildly wrong. I still support osm, it's just not good.

That's comaps now that organic is persona non grata

I don't really know what happened but when your app only works with community support and the community hates you enough to hard fork the app, it's time to switch.

This is a straw man. I have no interest in that, what I want is to be able to see points of interest more or less immediately after the business appears and I want search to work. The immediately problem could easily be resolved by lots of these restaurant vendors like door dash, slice, etc incorporated adding the restaurant to osm and it would basically cost them nothing.

And if I used a commercial map to find the place, why wouldn't I stay there? Google maps also has better directions because it has traffic data. Like I get we all hate google but the argument osm is good or even fine just doesn't make sense to me.

Oh I'm running osmand~ and comaps and magic earth.

And by running I mean I occasionally confirm its still not good enough yet

Even when they are up to date the search blows.

I tried to find something the other day and just because it's funny here are the results. The business is called X's Y but in osm it's stored as Xs, no apostrophe.

• osmand: no results
• magic earth: finds Xs, fails X's-- obviously humans recognize this as identical so the current search algo will never reliably find this store regardless of data entry
• comaps: no results, when I added the full real name (X's Y, it showed me Ya terrace, Y with one letter swapped avenue, etc)

So you tell me, if it can't find a restaurant for which it has existing data, why is it the users' fault for not collecting more data?

That's kinda funny considering what garbage applemaps was when it launched. Google just had to not screw up and I guess they did.

You can complain about why google works better if you want to, but it still does.

Your response also ignores the fundamental problem: even when the data is in open street maps, the search still sucks. No, I didn't mean any of 20 things in Italy, I meant the Italian restaurant a mile away.

Actually it's only a small part of the secret handshake that lets you into Epstein island. But it is a prerequisite.