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I mean that's where this conversation started: osm works fine if you already know where you're going.
I don't know anything about where you live, but traffic is wildly variable where I am and so I need it. Note I'm not one of those people who uses their gps to go to the grocery store, we're talking journeys of 30+ minutes, usually 60+, on interstates. Yeah if you're going to trader joes the traffic doesn't matter, but I sincerely hope people aren't whipping out gps to drive 10 minutes to somewhere they've been hundreds of times.
I really don't why everyone is trying so fucking hard to convince me to switch. I have multiple osm apps installed to my phone at all times. They just don't work well in any of the places I've lived in the last decade.
You're also seemingly of the belief I haven't added data to the maps, which is wildly wrong. I still support osm, it's just not good.
Except in places where I know where I want to get to but don't know how to get there, OSM most of the time is better than Google. So many examples of this for me, over and over again. It is just more up to date.
Specifics too, things like trails, parking, alternative routes, all better.
The traffic is a thing I suppose but every where I have been like I said it rarely saves any time.
Maybe it is because I travel through a lot of different places and countries.
By the way, I forgot to mention that in traffic theory (yes I have a friend who works with Traffic as their job) they tell me that two studies are very interesting with gps traffic routed maps:
Up to 60 percent use and traffic flows better, but once adoption gets to 90% of people using apps the traffic gets worse for everyone.