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The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
Douglas Adams
While the discordant text color makes that a little like reading while driving down a road with potholes, Adams is correct.
Hahaha, I was not able to read it 🤪
So fucking hard to read that first one
That's what I keep saying: Trump isn't the problem, he's a symptom.
And the disease is that a majority of voting Americans are either morally bankrupt and gullible enough to overlook all that Trump did and said and elect him, or actively fascist.
And that's why, when people tell me I need to "make space" for those people and give them an exit ramp, so that when Trump finally turns on them too, and they realize what they done did, the nation can heal and come back together, I say: fuck this shit.
I don't want to make space for immoral morons and fascists. These people deserve what they're about to get, and what they've inflicted on the rest of us who didn't sell out, and they'll never come back from the moral quagmire that made them think it's a-okay to elect a fascist POTUS.
They tell you to "make space"? What's that even supposed to mean?
It means let the fuckers know they can retreat from their extreme or misguided political stance and come back to a more reasonable point of view without consequences. It's a variation of Sun Tzu's "Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across”: if you don't, they'll fight you to the death because they have no other option.
My problem is, however reasonably the idea, that's a bit too rich for me to apply to imbeciles who turn their country into a fascist hellhole.
My mom voted for Trump and her gov job is abt to be furloughed
Make space if they actually repent for real, because it would be stupid not to. That's an ally.
Do not make space if it's not genuine, because it would be stupid to.
You were correct in the first half then you fell right off. Name a president that didn't suck. You can't, you won't. This has nothing to do with Republican or Democratic being worst. BOTH are traitors to the American people.
I do not understand how "vote for the better option" could possibly not be the correct move. If you want to change the candidates we have in the general election, no strategy for voting within the general election will change that; you would need to vote in the primaries to get the legitimately good candidates into the general. This is once again voting for the best option. If you have another theory I would love to hear how you expect it to work.
There is a wide chasm between “suck” and “fascist”.
On the one hand yeah sure, but on the other hand in the USA youre an accomplice if you didnt vote or if you wasted your vote on a 3rd party.
Vote for baddy, your fault. Vote for less baddy, youre propping up the system. Vote for good guy, you wasted your chance to vote against baddy. Dont vote, you wasted your chance yo vote against baddy.
Everyone gets the boot on the neck, everyone gets the blame, there are no winners
The US has needed rank choice voting since Nixon at least.
I bet that's also roughly the time that some higher ups in that party realized it must never be allowed to happen.
Can you stop with the whole, "if democrats would a won everything would be fine" bullshit?
In 2016 both Hillary and Trump had a lower than 50% approval rating and yet they were the frontrunners: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
Congress has a less than 50% approval rating and it's made up of elected politicians: https://www.statista.com/statistics/207579/public-approval-rating-of-the-us-congress/
We don't have a democracy, we have a system where you can only choose which representative for billionaires you dislike the least. They're all corrupt, any that aren't are quickly drowned out by well-funded opposition.
People tend to approve of their own representatives, and blame others in Congress for unsolved issues. We have become good at identifying problems while minimizing our own contributions to them. And in general, as a country we are very divided on the way things should be changing.
For presidential candidates especially, I've found people tend to latch on to reasons to dislike someone and ignore positive things, except perhaps for their favorite candidate. It's a form of tribalism. But from what I remember Trump and Hilary were both considered distinctly weak candidates at the time.
Hilary [...] considered distinctly weak
Not by the same proto blumaga libs who insisted Biden and Harris were strong candidates. If you pointed out people were suffering and her policies and messaging was "get a high paying job lmao", you got bombarded with "sHE iS ThE mOsT qUaLiFiEd cAnDiDAtE iN hIsToRy".
I believe that’s an overstatement, not all politicians are corrupt. There are many members of Congress that are working to make things better and pass progressive legislation. AOC and Bernie for instance haven’t been silenced and replaced by big corporations.
I agree with you that the US’ federal Congress is more pro-billionaire, but there are still people that want to make things better. The issue is that those people do not have the votes to pass progressive legislation. Lots of people are seemingly happy with the status quo given that half of the states predominantly vote Republican each election cycle.
The non-corrupt ones are a tiny minority and get drowned out by well-funded opposition. If the tide even hints at turning then the billionaires turn to straight-up fascism, as we're seeing now.
I wouldn’t say they’re necessarily tiny but they are a minority by far. 94/213 of the Democrats in the House are part of the progressive caucus for instance, which is 94/435 total seats in the House. Having 1/100 of the seats in the Senate by comparison.
Imo they just do what they can get away with. Which will continue for the foreseeable next three years at minimum.
For progressive change, it really needs to happen at the state level within Blue states. We need those programs passed at the state level and then we can sell how successful they are to the other states.
You are right. Americans are slaves, tricked into thinking their votes count. But people must understand the enemy is the corruption found by members of both parties. Democratic and Republican
If everyone votes egotistical, you will get an egoist in power and everyone loses except the egoist in power.
Kind of? Many of them, if not most, are also victims of the same system that indoctrinated them. Like an awful, evil feedback loop of victimization.
Not to say that makes it okay ofc, but all people are fallible and all can be cast as fools under the right circumstances, which is just a very important thing to remember at times like these.
Yeah, I view them as catspaws. They are assisting someone working against their interests without understanding how they are being used. You can show sympathy for them while nonetheless opposing them.
And you're right that everyone should have the humility to accept they also sabotage themselves sometimes. But electing who will lead the country is high stakes and some accountability is fair.
I didn't mean to insinuate that anybody should not be held accountable for their actions. Just the opposite is how I feel, really. But I also believe that many of them can do and learn better if provided with the right care and resources. That's not to say I know how to make that work, but that there is always, always, always a better path forward if enough qualified and caring people put their heads together and make it happen.
Very few of us are truly and entirely irredeemable. Some just take a lot more resources and time to be redeemed than others, is how I see it. I believe it is worth it, for the sake of all of our futures as well as those of people yet to be born, to try and see to it that paths like this are taken and doubled down on as soon as is possible.
Despite being a fan of Orwell's and, more often than not, in agreement with the views he shared, I took his wording to be a bit too absolutist for my tastes on this quote. Understandably, given what we know of his lived experience, but still. There is always a better way as long as there are still people trying to find it. I don't believe in all of us, but I do believe in the capital 'u' Us, you know?
And I'm not familiar with the term "catspaws". Feel like teaching a stranger something new?
Well said. To be clear, I agree with your outlook on human nature, but I try to check myself on not being optimistic to the point of ignoring people's history. People do change, but we can't presume in which direction that will be. We must remember improvement is a hope and a genuine possibility, but not an expectation. On the other hand, Orwell is regarded as insightful for good reason but of course he is also very cynical about people and the future.
A catspaw is just a term for someone who is used as a tool of another to their detriment. It comes from a French fable where a monkey convinces a cat to grab some roasting chestnuts for them to eat, but the monkey eats them all while the cat ends up burning its paw.
Edit: This is the fable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey_and_the_Cat
I have been known to think and act with hope-clouded vision at times. It is known. I think you're right, but will continue to choose to hope for the better of people, because I believe that hope, sometimes even the irrational varieties, is the fertile earth from which necessary changes most often grow. It is sometimes even the only ground that positive change can take to at all. If I keep at it on my end while enough others do the same on theirs, a better future will be made that much more accessible to everyone.
With that mindset, I don't feel I have the time for cynicism past a certain threshold (on some days, at least), and I am pretty certain that can be an invaluable asset in the right hands. Hopefully myself and enough others have such hands rather than these allegorical paws. Thanks for filling me in on that btw. Your comparison with it was spot on.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
—Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism (1951).
Never ask a man his salary
Never ask a woman her age
Never ask what George Orwell was doing in Myanmar in the 1920s
He literally wrote a novel that was heavily inspired about his time in Myanmar.
You can kinda ask him yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_Days
Set in British Burma during the waning days of empire, when Burma was ruled from Delhi as part of British India, the novel serves as "a portrait of the dark side of the British Raj." At the centre of the novel is John Flory, "the lone and lacking individual trapped within a bigger system that is undermining the better side of human nature."[1] The novel describes "both indigenous corruption and imperial bigotry" in a society where, "after all, natives were natives—interesting, no doubt, but finally...an inferior people".[2]
To be clear, that last bit of that last sentence is meant to be read as hideously haughty and privileged... it is dripping with irony, a self-cariacature, as the novel showcases the craven nature of characters in all kinds of social positions, from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds.
The whole thing is meant as an unflinching critique of how colonialism ruins everyone involved.
I guess we could also maybe ask Orwell what he was doing in Spain in the 1930s, but at the time, he would again have difficulty telling you.
Turns out that when you join an internationalist anti fascist militia to go personally shoot fascists yourself, well, sometimes they shoot back, and sometimes they hit you in the neck.
... thankfully, writing exists.
I find it absolutely incredible that George Orwell, a man who has likely personally shot more fascists than probably anyone you'll find on the internet... somehow doesn't clear the ideological purity test these days.
And that is because Orwell, while literally shooting at fascists in Spain, also found himself as the target of a pro-Soviet, pro-Stalin smear campaign, which tried to paint him and his outfit as Trotskyists and also as fascists.
Apparently, this smear campaign remains quite influential, to this day.
Orwell wrote openly about the things he did throughout his life, both in casual letters and widely read short stories
He certainly wrote a version of it.
Tautologous
Is this a shitpost?
How is this a shitpost?
How is it not?
It's not a meme, joke, banter, dumb comment or light-hearted observation. What's your idea of shitposting?
What group would be best for me to post this type of stuff in?
Something with politics or political in the name. Idk, but shitposts are supposed to be dumb!
Well people liked it. So they needed to see it. I guess 🤷🏻♀️
Sometimes people upvote stuff regardless of what community it's in.