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What is this AI everywhere concept actually supposed to accomplish for the end user? Maybe I'm just behind on the vision but I can't grasp the point. I have a feeling it's not really about what the users want but I'd love to here a genuinely good use case.
They've invested lots of money in AI systems and found out that people do not want to use them, so if they make them unavoidable and force people to use it.
Capitalism does that sometimes.
it's like having 10 walmarts in one town. they are selling their investors infinite growth by showing a huge uptick in users through unavoidable systems being piled on. like how retail used to sell their investors on square footage going up every year by X amount. it gooses the stock and it doesn't matter than your losing money or destroying your business doing it, because the stocks going up RIGHT NOW is the only goal.
I will continue to enjoy my incredibly straightforward and to the point Linux desktop that’s somehow gained a new AI-free feature by doing nothing.
Don't you want a bunch of pop-ups nagging you to use their AI gimmicks, though?
Damn it! I’m in.
Can anyone give recommendations on what to do if you have to run Autodesk products (Revit. Autocad) for work? No, I can't swap them for open source alternatives such as FreeCAD as Im working with large international projects. Should I dual boot? Virtual machine inside Linux?
Controversial take:
If Autodesk products is how you make your money - Just use the OS your work provides you. Unless you're a freelancer, of which that's your work computer, and lock everything else down.
Work computer is not my problem. Nor am I putting anything personal on there. Microsoft wants to mine my company's info, let those two deal with that shit.
Thanks. I am a freelancer but I depend on the platforms my clients work with.
In order of priority:
- Check for a Linux-compatible alternative
- Try installing/running it via Bottles (a veeeery easy to use Wine frontend, hiding lots of wine complexity). Wine allows running most windows programs directly on Linux, with almost zero performance overhead.
- Try installing/running it via winboat (basically WSL in reverse - a well-integrated Windows VM or container running on Linux so you can run pesky Windows-only programs with it) (haven't used it myself yet)
- Use a regular full Windows VM on Linux (likely less well integrated and more resource intensive than #3, but maybe even more compatible). Set up a shared folder between host and VM for easy file transfers.
- Dual-boot Windows from another disk. Set up a shared folder/partition for file transfers.
Dual boot is an option, but I would go with 2 machines, one with Windows with only the Autodesk products and the other with Linux and all the other software.
Winboat, for when you absolutely have to use something Windows based on your Linux machine.
If you must use windows but hate using it, have a vm inside linux dockur/windows: Windows inside a Docker container.. But it is not the smoothest windows experience (it really is for backup when you really need windows): it is not as fast as directly booted windows and apps that can't run in a vm won't run here. If this does not work for you, then dual boot or just use windows if necessary!
The first option fits me well fyi :)
Have Win 10 and was a Windows die hard since I was a kid.
Been running Linux on another drive as my default boot for a year and a half in anticipation of this horseshit and was only hesitant to delete Win because my Fanatec sim racing hardware wasn't supported on Linux.
Welp, turns out hid-fanatecff is a thing. Installed the kernel driver and boom, working Fanatec peripherals. Even my Moza shifter is plug-and-play.
Bye bye Microsoft.
Ok, guys. I'm reading some of these replies which are saying the amount of outrage is out of proportion. I have to disagree with that. I don't want an AI running on my PC that is monitoring and learning about my shit. I didn't want that data saved even locally, let alone the monetization of that data. I don't want to be paying for power of a device that is turning me into someone else's paycheck.
Can you turn it off? I believe you can. But I also believe that doing it manually would be incredibly annoying since that does go with a lot of past practice. I also get it would reactivate itself after major updates, like how Edge keeps reinstalling.
Are there other solutions to my Microsoft issues, yes. Chris Titus Tech comes to mind.
But overall, the Windows ecosystem does not feel right to me anymore. Could other people still use it, yes. Am I going to stop them, not intentionally. But my Arch gaming PC runs games better than the same machine running Windows. I've always entertained the idea of a full switch, still have a Windows 11 dual boot and haven't officially done it yet, but with this the moment feels right. At least for me, hopefully you can understand that.
I had dual boot with win10 for a while, but when they had that ‘bug’ that was wiping peoples linux partition I dropped Windows completely. As dar as I’m concerned Linux and other FOSS in general has reached a point where it meets the majority of my needs. Same goes for local storage vs needing anything through the cloud or streeaming.
yeah, I updated one machine that was running Win10, it's now running LinuxMint
My friend finally pulled the linux trigger after being a windows user and they love it! The excitement is amazing I love it.
The logic behind the voice controls sounds pretty questionable, but it’s supposedly backed by data showing that users spend billions of minutes talking in Microsoft Team meetings, according to Mehdi — so they’re already used to talking on the computer, right?
Do they really reason like this? Oh my. That's stupid. And here I was thinking Microsoft employs clever people.
As with a lot of corporate thinking, someone is tasked to justify the idea after the fact. Its not that they are unclever but that they think backwards. Conclusion first, support later.
I’m trying out Bazzite, and although it does take a little tweaking sometimes, I haven’t encountered a game I can’t run yet, including features like HDR and DLSS.
Have you tried out Steam on there? I don't know if there are any workarounds to running Steam games that require Windows; otherwise I'd probably switch one of my last Windows machines over.
Steam is honestly your best shot for getting a game to run, they've worked pretty hard on their compatibility layer.
Steam is absolutely the EASIEST way to run games on Linux.
It abstracts Wine, Proton and all the other dependencies so you don't have to think about it much.
You just install it, download and play exactly the same as you would on Windows.
There is also Heroic launcher, which is a similarly streamlined experience for Gog. (And Epic and Prime Games, if you're into those)
I've been using Steam on Linux for a few years. Check out Proton DB for game compatibility.
I've been on Debian for a couple years since Windows 10 came out. Not sure what this fuss has been about, but I'm glad I switched when I did.
Linux is the only viable solution to this mess. And no it is not as scary as it seema
Four Horsemen of Apocalypse
- The country where a lot of tech countries are headquartered in, elects a wanna-be dictator
- Android restricts "sideloading" (aka: non-approved install)
- Windows has mandatory AI
- Mandatory ID Verification
I finally troubleshooted why my Linux usb boot drive wasn’t working. Planning on making the switch when I have time off work.
So long as I can get Steam and Jellyfin working, I’ll never switch back.
I work in IT and far be it for me to tell you what OS to use on your own computer.
The only thing I want to die right now, is the AI bubble. Just pop already. Holy fuck what a worthless endeavor this has been.
It's insane how much extra time, effort and sanity you can retain simply by switching to Linux. I initially switched a few years ago, then fully shortly after. Using my PCs has never been better and I had no issues with gaming. The only games that don't work are some of the live service ones I'll never be interested in.
One of the best decisions in my life, right up there with deleting all social media. Life keeps getting better, relatively speaking, but of course rich pedophiles just can't tolerate us having a good time.
We have three windows laptops in the house. All for use in schools which were always heavily pro-Microsoft here. I haven't paid much attention to Windows 11. The last time I used Windows other than setting it up or fixing it for someone else was probably XP. All three users of those laptops come home from school/work, put them on a charger then head to a linux machine to play games, edit video etc. They know they have linux support and they have grown up with Linux. Not one of them has asked to upgrade their laptops to Linux yet.
Perhaps Microsoft isn't annoying regular users as much as the tech press and tech users think they are. Remember people still use shit like Facebook not just willingly but in some cases enthusiastically. We are a diverse lot. Some people, probably the majority, will put up with the same shit every day and not think to change their environment. I don't know whether it is too difficult or they are scared of change or they don't realize it is possible or perhaps they simple aren't bothered by the same things. Possibly all of the above.
For the gamers here using Linux: what about Discord? One of my only social outlets currently is unfortunately through Discord with some friends. There any issues with drivers for headsets and/or Discord having issues?
Edit: Thanks for the responses everyone!!
Discord has an official client for Linux. Also it works well in a Browser. I use it regularly without issues.
I use discord via browser on my Linux.
Discord works absolutely fine in Linux. I use "Vesktop" which is a desktop client for Discord. Performance is identical to using the Discord app in Windows AFAIK.
When I have to use discord, I use it in the browser. I don't trust the app not to get up to no good.
I use discord flatpak and it works flawlessly. You will need to check your specific headset of course
Discord is a horrible product and we should be steering people away from it and towards a federated alternative like Matrix.
That said, it works fine on Linux. The only issue is that updating it requires editing a text file because the incompetent cunts at the company can't be arsed to develop their product properly.