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[–] MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 155 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think they're going to let a little thing like the laws get in the way of a good time.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How about a national militia of tesla burners?

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 3 days ago

I remember the Russian military recruitment offices burning these past years, and their railroads getting sabotaged.

The western press proudly stated "this is what happens when you don't allow people to protest, they turn to sabotage".

But I guess this administration missed the memo.

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[–] Haess@lemmynsfw.com 122 points 3 days ago (3 children)

God, I wish that kid didn't miss.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So do I, but this problem is much bigger than one man. He could not do what he's doing without support from many rich donors and his party (which in turn relies on the support of the 30% of the country that reliably votes for them). Trump and many of his voters may be idiots but most of those other people are not, at least not in the intellectual sense of the word. They are making a calculated choice to enable fascism because they think it's better for them personally than democracy. That belief and it's associated threat to our country isn't going away when Trump dies. In fact, it might get much worse if they can find someone who can advance that agenda without being a bumbling fool most of the time.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago

Thankfully the French created a device that is perfect for solving such issues, we just require the societal will to do so.

[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm told we really shouldn't wish death on anybody... so I really wish he had gotten a bullet in his brain and been a vegetable hooked up to life support machines for many, many years.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I don't support the death penalty because those individuals are no threat to society, many of them are innocent, and the government shouldn't have that kind of power when it's unnecessary.

None of that applies. Also, I don't wish him dead. I just want him gone. The method of his removal is just a secondary concern.

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Hitler survived 30+ attempts, just sayin'... 🤷‍♂️

People who run this simulation really be giving the villains plot armor 😭

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 94 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yes, but if Trump refuses to leave office then he will need some serious guards. My understanding of the Constitution is that he becomes a domestic threat at that point and "fighting him" is technically legal ... and required by anyone that took an oath to defend the Constitution.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Technically he's barred from office per the 14th amendment.

Technically is great until it's ignored.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

The people who wrote the 14th amendmend fucked up. They did not specify how the disqualification clause is supposed to be invoked.

I mean, how are we suppose to invoke that?

States? If so, red states could just ban democrats by abusing the disqualification clause.

Conviction in courts? Well, trump never got convicted for treason/sedition. States convictionss of fraud isn't disqualifying.

Simple Majority in congress? Well, again, a unified congress can just use it to disqualify the other party.

Supermajority? Well, that would never happen.

Supreme court? Well... look at the composition of the court

So... yea... somebody fucked up.

Blame the authors of the 14th amendment.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure the Founders were under the impression that we'd rewrite the Constitution periodically when we discovered loopholes or other new problems they didn't foresee.

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[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

"I'm sure THIS will be the time he faces consequences for blatantly regarding both law and custom! Institutional inertia will protect us now for sure!" say a bunch of ignorant shitlibs for the 1,293,762nd time.

[–] loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I first took that oath 20 years ago. If orange idiot refuses to leave, I will be exercising my constitutional legal actions.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Just remember, if his new administration has proven anything, it is that the difference between legal and illegal in the American political system is mostly down to everyone being willing to go along with that law. There is very little actual teeth behind a lot of it at the high up federal level.

So it might be unconstitutional for him to run again, but who is actually going stop him? He has more guns and more sycophants than the court system.

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[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Twenty-Second Amendment

Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Supreme court:

Amendment schmamendment.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

To make this explicit, the law is what Trump and his merry band of miscreants say it is, unless we're willing to step up as a country and say 'No it isn't' and back those words up with action, if needed. All the words in the Constitution are is ink on a piece of paper, unless we're willing to stand and fight for them.

[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Elected to the office of the President

If you are looking for a loophole, I think there is an argument to be made that if he is elected to the office of the vice president and the president steps down, that would allow a “3rd term”.

I would love to be wrong, but I wouldn’t be shocked if that is the play.

Edit: dhork points out the 12th amendment should block this.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

The 12th amendment states

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States

That seems pretty definitive. The only attack to it I can see (and it's total bullshit) is that the Originalists on this court may insist on interpreting this amendment based on the state of the Constitution when it was ratified in 1804, and the term limits weren't passed until 1952.

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[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yesterday, former President Donald Trump told a group of supporters that they won’t have to vote again if they elect him to the presidency. “You won’t have to do it anymore,” Trump said at the Turning Point Believers’ Summit in Florida. “It’ll be fixed; it’ll be fine; you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” - The Atlantic, July '24

'When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.' - Maya Angelou

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[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I assume Schumer will agree to this because we wouldn’t want deny the American people a choice. I wish the democrats lived in reality.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Not both sides. One side and their controlled opposition.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Maybe someday they'll let a Democrat be president for three terms!"

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I remember when Republicans used to say things like "if you threaten my consitumitutional rights I will fight you to the end"

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

And they are fighting. Just for the wrong side. Can't wait to see how fast they crumple in the face of righteous physical anger.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Canuck here. When is the Civil War kicking off? I'm sure they'll be a fair number of Canadians who will come and help remove him from office. We'll for sure send some of our highly trained Canadian Geese to assist lol

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 days ago

When the Civil War happened there was a somewhat clear division between northern and southern states due to slavery, but now that division is between neighborhoods and houses, amongst families and coworkers. Add that into life in a surveillance state and it's going to be hard for a civil war to gain traction I think. But I'm sure any day now those 2A nuts are going to go up against the tyrannical government they have been prepping for, right?!

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[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The comments seem to be missing the fact that elections are state run, so if he is allowed to run a third time, it won't be him that broke the law it will be the states and their reps.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Ye olde civil war time

[–] VeryInterestingTable@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You mean The Third Reich ?

[–] Ramenator@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Remember: The Nazis never officially abolished the democratic Weimar constitution. They just hollowed it out until it was completely ineffectual

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[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Conservative don't like bypassing term limit. Conservative subreddit are already not happy. So yep it's matter of time some maga nut bag will revolt against him.

[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I hope the republicans have better aim this time.

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[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

Last I checked werent the mods going full gestapo and banning anyone who questioned trump ? That sub really is a shithole.

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[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Trump already looks 20 years older 2 months into his second presidency. Look at pictures of him yesterday. How on earth would he even run for a third term, physically I mean? He will be the oldest president EVER by the time his term ends. 2 Years older than Biden when he left. A third term would serve no one but the actual rulers Peter Thiel and Musk behind him....oh.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This has always been the plan. Orange Turd dictator for life.

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] mapmyhike@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't see him surviving this term. He is too old, his mind and body is going. He could be living his best life but instead is destroying everyone eleses.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't depend on this. I didn't expect him to survive his first term, but there's something about evil that seems to keep the body animated long past its best-by date.

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[–] RainbowHedgehog 13 points 3 days ago (10 children)

The dude is on IVs. Will he even survive till then?

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

When Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon said “I’m a firm believer that President Trump will run and win again in 2028,” last week, it should have been a surprise, but wasn’t. “We’re working on it. … We’ll see what the definition of term limit is,”the dishevelled Bannon told NewsNation. It wasn’t the first time he had mentioned it either. The president’s adviser, who went to prison for refusing to testify before a congressional committee about the 6 January insurrection, suggested it in December. Then, he argued that Trump could circumvent the 22nd amendment, which codifies the two-term limit, because the word “consecutive” is not in the text of the document.

Trump has been making his feelings clear too. Shortly after his election victory last November, the president told congressional Republicans: “I suspect I won’t be running again unless you say, ‘He’s so good we’ve got to figure something else out’.” 

Then, in January, during the annual House Republican retreat in Florida, he joked with speaker Mike Johnson: “Am I allowed to run again, Mike?” In February, he asked supporters at the White House: “Should I run again? You tell me.” Offhand musings about a third term in office sound less like bluster and more like a blueprint.

If we’re sharing articles can we make the effort to add a couple relevant paragraphs under the headline? Otherwise the discussion ends up being about the headline and often innaccurate.

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