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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 188 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I tell ya, this is all just a prelude to cancelling elections.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 18 points 2 days ago

He is trying to incite a civil war. Russian psyops are working with him on this.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any excuse to declare martial law.

Anyone want to bet he says Martian law?

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scribbling out a square on my bingo card and adding Martian Law.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They won’t be cancelled, that would be unconstitutional.

Instead, ICE will be posted at polling places and intimidate people not to vote.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the constitution.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, but he literally does not control elections, as they're run at the state level. It's why he's going for more work-around ideas like working to villainize things like vote-by-mail. It's the same play as it ever has been for Republicans, make it harder to vote so only the rich who support them can actually make it out to vote. Make it increasingly difficult for the lower classes to have their voices heard. The dumb yokels may be the loudest Trump supporters but one of the biggest blocs of Trump voters were business owners and other relatively wealthy citizens.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

That's why MAGAs have been making a concerted effort to systematically take over elections boards etc.

Yeah it's way more likely ICE will be used to occupy cities in general. For one, they don't have the same rigorous health standards that the military does, and for two, they just massively ballooned the budget of ICE for the specific purpose of recruitment. A lot easier to get dumb easily controlled thugs that way then trying to get the military deeply involved. The military being sent out is just Trump trying to pretend he's swinging his big dick around when it actually shows how weak he must be to be doing it.

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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 108 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Portland just recently broke the top 50 safest cities in the US. Just so you know what that assclown is targeting.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There are a huge number of country bumpkins that saw Portland on the TV during 2020 and assumed/were mislead into believing the whole city burned down and it's just a smoldering wasteland now. The actual problems were in a relatively small area downtown; most of Portland was unaffected.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I work with people in the software engineering field that have mentioned wanting to visit Portland but ask me if it's safe.

I can't even.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 14 points 2 days ago

I won't lie, the city has had problems but people's online rants about it are always overblown and always from people who don't live or visit there.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Plus, that was a long time ago. I drive by the Seattle "snowflakes beware" area a lot. It's just Seattleites doing their thing.

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[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 96 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Another inch forward and we all stupidly pretend this means nothing.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 26 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I said this is the other thread, but what is the appropriate response? He's clearly setting the board, and he definitely wants to shoot protesters. He very likely wants sufficient violence to do something dramatic. They even may try to instigate, but have thus far been unable to get the desired response to enable martial law or whatever they plan.

So you have three options:

  1. Violent response
  2. Non-violent response
  3. No response

Which of these three do you propose?

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

See, there’s a fourth option: The people with the power need to take action and I don’t mean a “strongly worded letter.” I’m talking about the leaders with the knowledge and the levers to move this along.

If they don’t the inevitability is that No Kings becomes more than the nice picnic it currently is for citizens.

Me? I’m a citizen just like you. I have no power unless you and I become a team.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago

Update: I watched the full video of what he said and now I really do believe he's just genuinely that stupid and thinks he's actually trying to put down a riot. Fox News really plays him like a fiddle.

Portlanders are pretty sarcastic and many people have posted videos of "life in hell" (his audio) set against a beautiful Pacific Northwest summer with boats and farmer's markets.

I dunno, I'm inclined to think mockery in this case might be the best response for the time being. We'll see how next month's protest goes, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were entirely peaceful.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you are a service member, you have a responsibility to refuse illegal and immoral orders. By participating in this administration’s un-American fascist projects, you position yourself as an enemy of the constitution, an enemy of the law, an enemy of the people. We did not accept “just following orders” as a defense the last time we put down a fascist uprising, and we wont accept it this time.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago

Not to detract from your point, but Nazi Germany and crew were a whole lot more than an uprising. Now to actually detract from your point, the Western Allies were super lax on Nazis during the Nuremberg trials to get the West Germans on their side against the Soviets. If I was a fascist looking at history to figure out whether I'd come out of post-facto trials unscathed, I'd feel pretty good about my chances.

[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Claims to end wars and then goes to war against us.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We are an occupied nation.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

War ravaged? Is this part of his delusions?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Yep. The fascist party propaganda machines (Fox, OAN, NewsMax) have been reporting that Seattle and Portland are literal war zones for years now. I live in Seattle, and when I travel to the South or the Midwest, I always get the "ohh I'm so sorry" concerned comments from people when they learn where I'm from. So many people think that the cities literally burned down entirely.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

You should ask "who's telling you this?" The follow-up is "you should ask yourself 'why are they lying to me?'"

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago

Minneapolis as well. We drive up to northern Minnesota to see family every year and I usually stop for gas and lunch in Minneapolis. Our family up there thinks we're insane. They're like "you stop in MINNEAPOLIS?!? are you all ok?"

[–] F_State@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see this online about Seattle all the time. (Plus hyperbole about the fent/homeless prob) People will be ranting about how awful Seattle is and how you can't go anywhere near it and I'm like "Really, I was there last month and had a lovely afternoon"

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah, they think BLM burned cities to the ground and there's riots everyday and fentanyl heads on every block, broken up with the occasional roving trans kidnapping gangs.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To be war ravaged, it must be at war. Trump is literally declaring war on the American people. And also encouraging the armed forces to kill civilians, unless you think "full force" could possibly mean anything else in a military context.

It's amazing how people can look at stuff like this and say "gee this guy sure does use some crazy hyperbolic language, I wonder what he can mean by that". It's pretty fucking clear.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

What war?

"Don't worry, we brought it with us in our luggage."

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yet another distraction from the child rapist.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the Epstein files are the distraction from sending the military to conquer our own cities.

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[–] easybre_bb@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 days ago

This guy hates the constitution

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Clearly Trump hates traditional American values like the constitution, the separation of church and state, freedom of speech and habeas corpus. I guess he should be put on his own terrorism watch list

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He should be put on a scaffold with a trap door beneath his feet and a noose around his traitorous neck.

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[–] duckworthy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

He’s looking for a weaker target that he thinks he can manipulate. He didn’t succeed in LA or Chicago or even DC. But he won’t succeed in Oregon either because the governors have banded together to share information and protect their citizens as much as they can. And because the people he has on the ground are incompetent. And the competent people have been unwilling to break the law for him. Most of the military and national guard are very unhappy with this stuff.

[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So war against ourselves it seems.

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wonder when the US military is going to move to defend the US constitution ..

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 2 days ago

Never. Literally not gonna happen. Best you're going to get is some of them joining you when the civil war begins.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

What a complete and total waste of money. Your money.

[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hello Americans, this is fascism!! It’s right here!!

[–] Juice@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago

Really? Lets vote and consume about it

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Yes he is bad but he can't be as bad as Hitler"

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[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago

To get the Trump/Epstein files?

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When can we start to enact economic sanctions against the US, any smaller state and there would have been repercussions for either the leadership or the country in general.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm a PATRIOT and I Voted for Trump because I Wanted to go to WAR With AMERICA!

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Portland just recently broke the top 50 list of the safest cities in the US.

And of course it is a blue state and Portland is known to be extremely liberal.

Fuck you and fuck off fascists

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