Are they trying to kill windows on purpose?
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2025
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The sad thing is they know the large majority of users will comply. Most people put familiarity and convenience above their own privacy and general well-being.
Once valve drops better nvidia support into the kernel, and steamos starts coming pre-loaded on laptops and pre-built desktops it's over for their consumer division.
There's nothing special about SteamOS. Linux has been available as an option from several manufacturers for years.
What we need to see is a major studio pushing for Linux like valve has been doing.
Imagine if call of duty or fortnite had a Linux promotion to have a penguin hat. That would help
There kind of is though. I'm not here to argue it's enough to unseat windows but it is markedly different
From a technical standpoint it's just another linux distro with some nice tweaks for gaming but from a human perspective it has brand recognition, familiarity, a known company behind it. Those things do really matter for adoption. No idea if that'd be anywhere near enough, I'm not inclined to make predictions, but it does have explicit advantages over consumers hearing they can get a laptop with Ubuntu or fedora on it
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What we need to see is a major studio pushing for Linux like valve has been doing.
That's it. That's literally what makes it special. You, me, and half the fediverse probably aren't going to use steam os unless maybe we buy a steam deck.
The fact that there's a multi-billion dollar company throwing money at both it and proton is what makes steam os special. Its what's going to give Linux a unified brand name that every machine can put on their case badge.
Normal people and the companies that sell them computers need that unified brand name. Why on gods green earth, I don't fucking know, but I know that they do. Its how you get them to use shit.
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The fact that Facebook still exists is proof of this.
Also, I will not be surprised if they audaciously disable Win 10 Home edition for security purposes once end of life is reached.
They already said they are going to charge $30/year for patches. They want recurring revenue from ads in 11 or from you paying yearly for 10.
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companies do things like this when they feel they have the power in the business/customer relationship and there's no regulations to stop them.
I wouldn't say that, more just abusing a monopoly.
I don't know what is going on at Microsoft. I'm starting to think that they are trying to pivot to a completely different business model. In addition to this Windows 11 crap and XBox seemingly being given up on, they appear to be losing their embedded market as well. In the past, if you saw any screen in an industrial setting, there's a good chance that there was the embedded Windows version behind that screen. Lately, all the new products are moving over to Linux.
They are, and have said they are.
Subscriptions are the wave of the future.
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I've used the unpatchable Win11 account loophole, that exploits a functionality of your pc, where you wipe your boot drive, and install NixOS on it
That's a neat trick!
Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?
My guess is that's it's easier to neatly package your data up for when they go to sell it.
Because we need your data silly 😊
because microsoft is shifting focus from selling you a product, to selling you as a product
And they need a unique account to track every single click and thing you do on your PC, and the web, and everywhere else to facilitate doing that with greater control and ease.
Its literally what, and for the same reason, google has done for the past decade+
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Describing the ability to make a local account as a loophole is letting a little too much real intention slip out.
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I didn't know Gentoo was named after a penguin.
Now I want a Chinstrap and a Southern Rockhopper Linux.
Chinstrap Linux haha. It's like Fedora, but for a totally different demographic.
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It's not a big deal. They're removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:
@echo off
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
shutdown /r /t 0
You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.
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I really hope the whole shift away from American products will convince more software and game developers to provide native support for Linux. I am approaching the fence.
Man, Microsoft advertising for Linux Mint YET AGAIN?! They are so gracious.
Why is everyone reccommending linux mint all of a sudden? What happened to ubuntu and fedora?
Ubuntu added telemetry and forced snaps
And Ubuntu Pro popup ads. Linux Mint is, from a compatibility standpoint, Ubuntu without the crap.
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Mint is ubuntu with the icky stuff removed and given an extra layer of polish. Still loving it here.
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This forced account shit is infuriating. I’d see students with computers that cannot get to government-provided education sites because they are forced to sign up with a Microsoft account to use their PC, which forced them to setup a child account because of their age and therefore be under a parent account, which means the child account can only use Edge and can only go to whitelisted websites, which blocks some government education sites unless the parent account allows it through which they can’t until the student goes home.
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I'm so glad I finally ditched that shit for good
Windows 11 is enshittfying a feature that let you skip making a Microsoft account
There, FTFY.
Just one more reason not to use Windows, As if forcing data scrapers down our throat in the guise of AI wasn't enough.
Hi another recent Linux adopter jumping in on a "fuck windows" thread.
Seriously, it's not hard to shift. If you're use to macOS, get Elementary. If you're used to Windows, try Mint. Your machine will probably be fine for either. Setup/testing it out is trivial.
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I just deleted my old Mocrosoft account. Forgot I had it until recently.
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Will people just stop using windows already. I get for work but if you just waiting on that one game then fuck off it's not worth it. I gave up some of my favorite games because it wasn't worth using Windows
Proton is amazing though. I got Lego LotR working on my steam deck by installing some DirectX 9 dependency to fix a graphical glitch with the game. Runs like a dream.
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Even MORE reason not to upgrade!
They give me more and more reasons to stay on W10 until I give up games and move to Linux permanently.
I'll miss my TCMD scripting, though. But besides that and gaming, most of what I do nowadays is cross-platform.
What games keep you on Windows? Besides a few anticheat-enabled ones which choose not to support it, basically everything works fine. I game (and work in gamedev!) 100% on Linux.
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Is it possible to skip account creation by installing while not connected to the internet?
Nope, you need an internet connection to get past initial setup. Unless you use pro, there you can select to domain join computer instead and it'll let you create a local account
You are wrong for now, it is still possible.
- Ctrl + Shift + F3 during setup gives you access to sysprep
- In an admin CMD you can excecute the BypassNRO.cmd script. In C:\Windows\System32\oobe\
- I have encountered one 24H2 installation where the oobe folder was empty, but if you copy the file from another device it works just the same
- Reboot from sysprep and you can now select "Install without internet" when selecting a WIFI
This will not work if you're already connected to a wifi. BypassNRO sets a registry flag, so it's only a matter of time till they patch it out, but it works for now.
Edit: Rufus also allows the creation of a local user when making the installation USB, skipping the entire setup process.
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