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[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 100 points 4 days ago (20 children)

While this scum is allowed allocate all of the world's resources; every drop of water you conserve goes to their data centers and pleasure fleets.

There is no conservation until they're gone. It simply cannot be done.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (15 children)

I mean yes, but it's not like they use an extra drop for every drop conserved, it's still okay to not be wasteful.

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[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Companies 3 years ago: helping the environment is part of our core values

The same companies one day later: start to heavily use and train AI

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

helping the environment is part of our core values

By the way, back to commuting to/from the office, people!

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago

That was always just green washing bullshit.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

you are being generous. They are more like

"Under enlightened Trump's benevolent leadership we have realized that environmental concerns, inclusivity, modern medicine and preventing political misinformation are all woke scams. Therefore effective immediately we are ditching all our efforts in these directions."

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They tricked us into taking all the blame for climate change, so we’re busting our ass off to reduce and they don’t even pretend to care. In truth we could do more for the environment with guillotines than paper straws

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They tricked us into taking all the blame for climate change

They tricked us into believing metric fucktons of single use plastics would keep us safe and healthy.

But we never had any direct control over climate policy, because we never had any direct control over the capital itself.

All we could do was blame ourselves.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did they?

I can't recall anyone ever being anything but nonplussed and skeptical about paper straws. From what I can tell, it was a product of a think tank that pushed into the news, which then caused businesses to treat that as though it were public demand and pushed it out to everyone, and most people shrugged, used the obviously inferior product (because it was free and the alternatives require attention), and then people got on with their day.

On the wider scale this was pitched as 'the only thing you can personally do to combat climate change' - but I suspect it is the literal strawman of a figurative progressive position, purposely pushing a manufactured defective solution as a means to distract and suppress more substantive change and organization thereof.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

paper straws were about trash, not C02.

they used to make them with a wax coating so they would not get mushy.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (17 children)
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but I'm terrible about carrying them with me

Start a cocaine or ketamine habit and you will always remember to have it on hand.

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[–] debil@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Be the change you want to see in the world.

throws a Molotov at the next flying cruiser

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bruh if you so much as spit on said cruiser you'll be wanted by the police for terrorism, despite the definition of terrorism being to threaten harm to civilians....

Before I submit, I want to clarify that I have read the UK Government's definition of terrorism, and as it's a stupid ass definition, I elected to ignore it.

"..as the use or threat of.. ..serious damage to property.. ..designed to influence the government.. ..for the purpose of advancing [an].. ..ideological cause."

As we know, damaging property belonging to anyone else, regardless of how many people will be saved, is against the legal law and punishable. HOWEVER, going back to their own law...

"..as the use or threat of.. ..serious violence against a person [OR] endangering a person's life (other than that of the person committing the action) [OR] creating a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public.. ..which involves the use of firearms or explosives is terrorism regardless of whether or not the action is designed to.. ..intimidate the public.. ..for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.. ..Action includes action outside the United Kingdom."

By their own law, any organisation intending to assist in the wilful and unprovoked violence against people, with explosives or firearms, is by their definition a terrorist. This defines the UK government and many companies as terrorists, coconspirators of Israel.
The disclaimer "other than that of the person committing the action" absolves anyone of the definition if they are doing so to stop the attacker. This defines Palestine Action as innocent as they were acting to stop the attacking arms company.

But the only reason these interpretations are not the case in reality is because the government a) choose which laws to uphold and when, and b) defend their decision by lying that the Palestinian people were the instigators of their own eradication by the various countries of the world.

Sorry, I know this is just a meme

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh totally. billionaires carbon footprint is many orders of magnitude larger than multiple lifetimes and generations of us normies. Abolish billionaires. Redistribute that wealth. The environmental future we want - NOW.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

And yet, there aren't very many of them but there are billions of us.

Even if their lifestyles result in 1000x as much pollution, they only represent 0.00004% of the worldwide population, which is not enough to move the needle.

To put that in perspective, metro Tokyo has a population of approximately 38 million. If the fraction of billionaires in Tokyo matches the global ratio, there would be about 15 billionaires in Tokyo. Anything 15 people do in Tokyo will be just noise compared to what the other 37,999,985 people do.

Let's just pretend that all 3000 of the world's billionaires lived in the USA. They'd still only make up 0.001% of the entire US population. Even if they were flying around in personal jets, being followed by Airbus Beluga jets carrying their yachts, it would still pale in comparison to the sheer number of people currently suffering in economy class right now.

collapsed inline medialive air traffic showing the thousands of planes currently in the air over the US

I still think billionaires should be squashed by a hydraulic press, but I'm not kidding myself into thinking that doing that will have any impact on the environment at all. I support it more because they're greedy assholes who are taking far more than their share, and who are using their immense wealth to distort the well functioning governing of the world.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 24 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Eco-friendly straws don't have to be mushy paper.

There are several other "vegetable plastics" that last long enough to serve as a fully functional straw, but months later degrade naturally. The reason you don't see them being used is because McDonald's doesn't want to spend an extra $0.10 on every order, because that would totally bankrupt the billionaire company you know.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I still propose that we just stop with the single use straws and if people want straws for their drinks that badly they can bring their own reusable one, and if it isn't takeout the restaurant can provide a reusable one.

Like seriously why does everything need a straw?

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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Fuck the billionaires that do that, but that doesn't mean that me using a straw isnt still making the shit worse. At least I can sleep at night knowing I am not making the situation worse, and I will still try to vote for politicians that are fighting against the billionaires

[–] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The normalization of needless single use products, like straws, by making them non plastic DOES make things worse. It delays real action, like removing straws altogether.

It’s greenwashing inherently unsustainable practices, just like introducing carbon capture technology on oil rigs or hyping electric cars as a way to keep the auto industry going (while suppressing more efficient means of transportation).

If we’re not going to fix shit, then why the fuck bother with mushy straws.

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[–] starkzarn@infosec.pub 23 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The irony of using AI to make this image...

Humanity really is a lost cause

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Training is expensive. Inference probably cost less than the mushy straw.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Do not patronize these systems, regardless of how small you think your individual impact might be. User counts are used to justify continued investments in these things.

People need to just say no.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

I mean they use electricity, you want to advocate for more renewables in your energy mix locally then it doesn't matter that they use lots of it because it's renewable anyway

for example mistral is french: https://chat.mistral.ai/chat

MGX, Bpifrance, Nvidia, and Mistral AI plan 1.4GW Paris data center campus

A gigawatt-scale data center cluster is set to be developed outside Paris, France.

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/mgx-bpifrance-nvidia-and-mistral-ai-plan-14gw-paris-data-center-campus/

And how much co2 does it output? hardly any because France has tons of nuclear power plants:

collapsed inline media

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/72h/hourly

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[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Edit : My bad, some obvious AI artifacts

Insane that people can't tell this is a low effort Photoshop and think it's AI. Look it's literally a picture of a cropped cruise ship overlapped with a plane. It's 5min of Gimp

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[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nobody:

Larry Ellison: Buys an entire 90,000 acre Hawaiian Island just because

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Those ships are powered by baby chickens.

First they load up the tanks full of baby chickens. The chicks travel into a conveyor belt where a long row of old women pick up the chicks to if they are male or female. The females are grown to make more eggs. The males are tossed into the intake. The males are then mixed with air and tar and then injected into the piston at high pressure. Once top dead center is reached, a spark drivers the pressures to hundreds of PSI and as much as 800 C. The chicks have been known to survive up to that moment.

If they can perfect chick injection they will try more compact fuels like puppies, crocks, whales, baby elephants, the homeless and or orphans. They might end up stuck with birds so they might try just eagles. There are enough of each eagle to push the boats a good two or three miles!

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you must have some really good weed

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Always remember that coke and pepsi do not use recycled plastic in their coke or pepsi packaging, yet they are outwardly huge proponents of recycling the waste they create

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That's why the billionaires have decided to hoard all the wealth among a smaller and smaller proportion of the population. They're trying to save the planet! When 10 people have everything and the rest are all dead - boom, planet saved.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Look, if living in a densified treeless hellscape of concrete towers that all look the same, filled with 350 sq. ft. windowless suites furnished with sawdust furniture, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for the ruling class to continue living well.

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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

if we reduced wealth inequality to the point noone could afford that kind of shit i bet we could ride the plastic straw wave for a few centuries before it really came back to bite us.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I never had any issues with paper straws. Is it a skill issue?

[–] Sybilvane@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've definitely noticed paper straws come in different qualities, and are affected differently depending on what you're drinking. But the ones that turn mushy were largely phased out of use because I'm sure a lot of people complained. I haven't had a mushy straw in years.

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[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Same.

The people I've noticed complain seem to buy giant drinks and let them sit around for a while.

Never been a fan of flat warm soft drinks myself.

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