Tell me how you voted, and ill tell you how I feel about your plight.
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'The whole thing is screwed up': Farmers in deep-red Pennsylvania struggle to find workers
(www.politico.com)
The people that hire a ton of immigrants unerringly vote for the guy who promises to remove immigrants. What did you think was going to happen?
They were told that it would just be the criminals and gang members, and they were stupid enough to believe it.
Some? Maybe
Mostly it is just that their hate and selfishness overrides everything. It is the same reason that pro gun republicans still won overwhelmingly after the massacre in Uvalde and farmers keep voting for republicans no matter how much they get screwed over. Because as long as they can believe someone else is suffering more, they are happy.
I think you vastly overestimate how informed these people are on anything related to politics. Most of them don't think any further than, "vote red because that's what I was raised to do."
While they simultaneously screamed that every immigrant was a criminal
It looks like their farms will be bought at a discount by the oligarchs.
Damn, if only there was something in a program, maybe some sort of... project that would have warned them about it.
What a kwinkidink considering this:
JD Vance gets rich by owning an app (acretrader) that helps investors outside of the United States snap up real estate deals (including many family farms and rental properties) that are then owned by people who have never and will never see those places and who ONLY own those places to obtain money and power in our country.
Your question assumes capacity for forethought.
And the capability to empathize instead of just raw dogging every experience like it's a brand new thing that nobody could ever imagine or understand.
Here's the thing: they aren't asking for a reversal of the policy, they just want a fix to the problem. A solution that the criminal-industrial slave complex can provide...
"Arbeit macht frei" will soon adorn the farms that benefit from whatever solution this admin provides.
What never ceases to amaze me is that people hiring undocumented workers aren't getting in major legal trouble, and that they straight up admit they were doing it publicly.
Assuming the mindset that we need to get rid of the big scary immigrants, how are the people hiring them not equally culpable?
Hey now, logic has no place here. You're also forgetting the foundational principle of our criminal justice system. It's not illegal if you have money and your motivation was greed.
Also, you can't punish individuals when a whole company does crimes, because you can't hold companies accountable.
Unless the company harms the wealthy, then some scapegoats might suffer some consequences.
they were under obama. He deported people but more importantly he fined the employers.
“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”
With an attitude like that it's no wonder you're having trouble finding people to work for you...
“We moved to H-2A out of necessity,” added Sarah Zost, an orchard grower in Gardners, Pennsylvania. “No one wants to use the program. It’s a paperwork nightmare.”
If only one party had been proposing to fix immigration; only to have their efforts hamstrung by insistence we first "strengthen the border". See reference here: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/
The best chance to enact comprehensive reform came in 2013 during President Barack Obama’s second term, when a bipartisan group of senators dubbed the “Gang of Eight” agreed on a bill that would toughen security at the southern border and make it harder for employers to hire migrants who had entered the U.S. illegally while providing legal status and a path to citizenship for millions of such migrants who had resided in the U.S. for many years. The proposal passed the Senate 68 to 32 with strong bipartisan support. But because it did not enjoy the support of a majority of House Republicans, then-Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to floor for a vote, and the measure died.
Article doesn't mention pay either...
But because it did not enjoy the support of a majority of House Republicans, then-Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to floor for a vote
Ahh yes, the informal rule named for child rapist Dennis Hastert (R) that has only ever been used by republicans.
John Boehner is a drunk piece of shit who was constantly crying in public because he was constantly shitfaced at work. Just throwing that out there. I speak from personal experience.
It's too bad the punishment for what THEY voted for only applied to them, since they asked for it. It'd be nice if normal Americans could go on living our lives under a normal administration...
The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”
Huh. Can’t see any problems here. Have the day you keep voting for, buddy!
I feel so bad that some poor “salt of the earth” can’t keep the farms their daddies left them… 🙄
that “free market capitalism” they think they have/had was worth it huh? pay workers more so you can find them locally, or if you cannot, close your farm. or fight to remove all borders (objectively a good thing) so you don’t have to worry about the made up an ever moving goalposts that is “immigration law.” or fight to remove capitalism and off a few burbs with one stone.
Hire legal workers and pay your proper taxes, asshole. Especially when your money is probably coming from subsidies anyway
Well, goooooollllly. And gee-whillickers.
Now just who the fuck could have done this to us? How could Kamala and her cackle do this to such fine, upright REEL MERIKANS?
“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.” [emphasis mine]
Well, lookee here. Gosh, I wonder if there is any correlation to voting and outcomes?
Also, is this guy stepping up to do the job, or is he "too spoiled"?
I think you meant:
"Ach, now who in the world went and done this to us, once?"
Well, yes. Happens when you take the road to stupid.
Have you tried this "bootstraps" thing?
GOOD
America can't have nice things
America had nice things. Once.
Trump took away the corporation for public broadcasting
*should not be allowed to have nice things.
Good.
I hope they lose their jobs and have to struggle to find another living while a corporation buys their land.
Do you really want a corporation buying their land, or just someone with more sense?
Duh. Just find the Americans willing to work for the same wages. Easy.
Thanks trump!
This man’s pants are holding on for dear life in the thumbnail. Just floating in the wind.
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