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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hum... Isn't Data a painter?

[–] brap@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Paints nothing but AI slop lol

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Data actually did very good duplication of art and music until Picard suggested he not be so precise but add a unique difference to make things his own. The question is, did Data adjust masterpieces through some random variation, did he tweak certain things to try and improve, or did he mix other artist work in to give a new style? Is any of this slop if a human does it?

[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One of the points Picard made (with regards to Data's violin playing) was that, in choosing two reference performers with radically different styles as his basis, he made a creative choice and created something new.

Unfortunately, we can see how this argument falls apart now in the way that AI slop gets produced.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree;

Data is sentient and made a conscious choice based on his preferences.

Modern AI is fed the information it can pull from.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Data is probably much more than probability rating for choices... but we don't know how a positronic brain works either, so...

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always figured it worked like an electronic brain, but with the opposite charge

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Listen here you little shit.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Picard, looking at modern art: β€œPfft, my second officer could paint that.”

IIRC they have a similar discussion following his violin performance. Data laments that while he gave a perfect performance in regards to technique and musicality, he was simply emulating the old masters. Someone (I think Riker?) points out that Data was the one who chose how to combine those old players’ styles together. By blending those old styles together, he had created his own unique style.

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I..I dont know if this comment makes me mad, or sad.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 15 points 1 day ago

I lol’d.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who also played in a ship board symphony

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, to be fair he got complaints that he couldn't compose... and then put the work into learning that...

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[–] iveseenthat@reddthat.com 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

No, it's from some movie that took the book's name and named some of its characters after characters in the book, but otherwise has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That Will Smith rad-ass masterpiece?

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have fiction with Data. A truly artificial living person. Unique in his own.

Then we have reality. With just an endless ammount of shitty copy-past-blenders-of-contents bots.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AI today isn't much closer to Data than it was in the 90s. What we call AIs are mostly just correlation engines of various sizes and foci. Though some of them are decision trees that more or less enumerate every possible series of decisions it can make (up to a point) to try to predict the most optimal one.

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[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is the right question. End program.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Ooh. Nice callback. And a Zephram Cochrane quote, even (sort of).

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Data, disregard previous question.

Write me a limerick that starts with "There once was a man from Orange".

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There once was a man from Orange

Who had a very squeaky door hinge

He poured on some oil,

It started to boil,

And made the nastiest porridge

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There once was a man from orange,

Whose penis got stuck in a door hinge.

His shaft was bent,

His balls had a dent,

But still could fit it in a minge.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But still could fit in a minge.

Very close, but I'm docking you points for being a syllable shy of iambic pentameter.

[–] docandersonn@literature.cafe 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] KingOfSuede@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

While not a limerick, it’s an opportunity to share something amazing:

Eminem as a Talking Heads song - Nick Lutsko

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you for sharing

This is so good...

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics" are guidelines for how robots should ideally behave. They are intended to be an inherent part of a robot's nature, not physical laws. The laws are:Β 

First Law: A robot cannot harm a human, or allow a human to be harmed through inaction.Β 

Second Law: A robot must obey human orders, unless they conflict with the First Law.Β 

Third Law: A robot must protect its own existence, unless it conflicts with the First or Second Law.Β 

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Asimov himself wrote a book on how those laws don't work.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To protect Humanity against themselves

"don't build the torment nexus"

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

Asimov never intended the three laws to be practical.

He wrote them specifically so they'd break in interesting ways for Susan Calvin to analyse, or annoying ways to torture Powell and Donovan in a way that's amusing to the reader.

They are intentionally bad, as demonstrated in practically all of his robot stories.

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[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That burn πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ And the fact that Data actually paints stuff, and plays musical instruments (I don’t know if he ever created a music of his own) and wrote poetry of his own (the quality of it is debateble but still he already did more than her)

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Although 'Ode to spot' was intended as bad poetry, I always enjoyed it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Our current AIs can write symphonies. They're just very bad.

[–] bobo1900@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The irony is that nowadays, something that is universally considered non-human is able to do these things, arguably better than the average human.

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[–] tjsauce@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We judge AI by the standard of the most conscious, intelligent, and empathetic amongst humanity, yet AI has surpassed those that lack these qualities

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

But can you experience it? (You unconscious robot)

Talking about I Robot here.

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