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Prosecutors say Luigi Mangione, accused of killing the CEO of UnitedHealthcare on a Manhattan sidewalk, has inspired others to embrace violence over reasoned debate.
Wtf is "reasoned debate" supposed to mean when you're discussing for-profit, killing machine, only making money for investors and CEOs, healthcare????
Jfc.
They literally don't see us dying as a problem, it's an inevitability.
This is what generational wealth in an inequal society literally always leads to.
No one in those C suites have every went to public school, they've never worked a bullshit job, they don't interact with anyone outside of their class unless it's an employee and they're a client.
The status quo is we die and they profit, it's only a problem when one of them dies.
100%
A Republican town hall:
"People are gonna die" shouts a man concerned for the wellbeing of others.
"We are all going to die." The senator says with a derisive scoff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ZljUsjWVQ
She then responds to her disdain for living people with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn5ZHGDdToA
They fucking laugh at us openly.
But, the joke is not funny.
Nor is what they deserve.
"reasoned debate" has clearly been working so well so far. Have you even TRIED sending a polite letter to a fascist who thinks they're above the law?
/s
What has that got to do with the crime or anything else?
Oh no. people hate CEO news at 1:00.
From a Comicon vendor booth.
Why did they put the killer's words in the same space as the face of an innocent man?
Votive candles, too
I'm about to go to Dragon Con, and I'll be interested to see how many folks will be cosplaying as Luigi is this year. I'm betting it'll be at least tied with KPop Demon Hunters cosplay, if not even more popular.
Luigi did not create a general disdain for the insurance industry. The insurance industry did that on its own.
The general disdain for the insurance industry created Luigi
There was no crime.
Luigi Mangione may not be a “hero”, but healthcare insurance executives are surely villains, and they, as well as billionaires, should not exist, because they represent an existential threat to us all.
So he took out a threat to us, I think that qualifies him for hero status.
I went to the dentist a few months ago to get a couple fillings. I haven't had insurance for years so I haven't had the chance to go. They said after I was done that it'd be something like $20 with insurance. Fast forward to two weeks ago I went into the dentist for a normal cleaning and before I even sit in the chair I'm being told that I still owe $900 from my last visit. They told me that my insurance denied my claim and that I had to pay in full. Was it a lot? Not really. But that's also almost an entire paycheck for me. And as someone that lives basically paycheck to paycheck it can make a huge difference.
This is exactly why I haven't been to the dentist in three years. I hadn't had insurance and didn't want to pay a ridiculous amount just to get a filling or two. Figured now that I have insurance through work I can start getting my teeth sorted. Felt so pissed off that I didn't even set up another appointment since they'll probably deny me again 4 months later.
And after all that, I'm sure you can guess what insurance company they provide through my job. Here's hoping I don't get that diabetes that runs in my family.
Just a note - while others will tell you not to pay, what you should do instead is go in and get a checkup (covered), and ask them to do a pre-d on anything they want to do.
What’s a pre-d?
I've never actually heard that phrase, but from Context I'm guessing they mean to get pre-approval done before you get the procedure done. Which is really good advice for every medical procedure you ever get done. At least the ones you are conscious for.
Just don't pay. Let it go to collections agencies. Medical debt is basically worthless and they don't even bother to harass you for it.
Medical debt now goes to your credit report.
Thanks Trump admin.
Oh they absolutely do. Dealt with it for years plus it'll tank your credit.
It didn't used to. It used to be that medical debt was excluded from your credit report. That changed recently though thanks to, you guessed it, Republicans.
The more, the merrier.
By "prosecutors", I wondered if it was just some political commentator who was a prosecutor. Nope. It's the prosecutors for this case in one of their filings:
The prosecution outlined the threat in a filing late Wednesday on a procedural matter in federal court in Manhattan, where they plan to try to convince a jury that Mangione deserves death. No federal trial date has been set.
In their filing Wednesday, prosecutors wrote that Mangione poses a continuing danger in part because he seeks to influence others.
“Simply put, the defendant hoped to normalize the use of violence to achieve ideological or political objectives,” they said. “Since the murder, certain quarters of the public — who openly identify as acolytes of the defendant — have increasingly begun to view violence as an acceptable, or even necessary, substitute for reasoned political disagreement.”
They're saying that he deserves to die not because of his actions, but because of what he represents. (I guess in their eyes, there is no such thing as a martyr.)
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced in April that she was directing federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty for “an act of political violence” and a “premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America.”
So, they're being ordered by Pam Bondi to seek the death penalty. Pam Bondi, who was appointed by Trump, and who appears to be trying her best to suppress evidence about Trump's past of raping children.
So, really, what do these prosecutors represent?
I know that if I was a prosecutor, and I was in some trolley problem situation where I had two cases, one where a person killed a CEO, and one where a person raped a child, and I was forced to prosecute only one and let the other go, I'd prosecute the child rapist without any hesitation.
I believe there is talk of that evidence being mishandled or planted
I just feel like Blackstone locks their shit down hard enough no one could just "wander in" with a rifle...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Inc.
You don't do over 13 billion in gross annual revenue without springing for a security service.
But even assuming that were an accident, that means the federal government sees any death of a high level executive of a billion dollar corporation as a horrible crime of itself completely different from a regular murder. Even if they're not the intended target.
It's a sentiment most people arrive at even if they can't verbalize or fully understand it.
And it's not helping them. Cracking down on the populace is the absolute worst thing to be doing now, thousands of years have produced more than enough examples.
On a basic level people are going to start thinking of everyone that's not a billionaire as "us" and everyone working with billionaires in a high level "them".
The rest is just the natural result of how humans are wired, and why the wealthy try so hard to make us draw the us/them lines literally anywhere else.
But there's no just war but a class war, and eventually the majority remember that.
One of the people shot was a security guard. But regular corporate security is a sham.
If he did then we might not be as fucked as it looks like we are. But so far, I'm not seeing it happening. The rich aren't scared enough.
I sure as fuck wish it did, where are these copycats?
Better not execute him and make him a martyr, then
Especially since he very obviously isn't the shooter
They'd better not kill an innocent man.
They're going to
Surely he’ll sit on death row for 50 years running through his constitutionally guaranteed appeals like every other death row inmate though, right?
~RIGHT?~
I was hoping it would, unfortunately I don't think it has because greedy CEOs are still a problem.
I feel like this article is just another one trying to push the shane was after the nfl when he did not shoot a woman leaving the elevator he entered but then immediately shot a ceo when he got off the elevator. Yeah they found a note.
