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[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

NO AI TIL UBI

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not really, they just found it still has problems at this point. They aren't giving up.

From the article itself:

"Yum Brands, announced a partnership with Nvidia earlier this year with the goal of improving the technology that powers its AI operations, including the order takers."

"The company is still moving forward on voice AI, which remains a critical part of the product road map. "

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I went to Wendy's recently and the drive thru was all ai. It worked pretty well actually. I'm not sure how I feel about it. It's not like they pay people a fair wage to do that job anyway

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If anything, having fewer employees to produce a given amount of revenue theoretically allows for the employees that remain to be paid a better wage. Not saying that they will be, since, you know, corporation, but any pressure that can later be placed on them to raise wages will go further if the available revenue per employee is higher.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

You're optimistic. Lol

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn dude, not to be a dick or anything but I don't think I've ever seen naivete personified more in a comment than this one.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Literally how. I brought up that a corportation wont just pay people more just because more money per person is available, and it isnt exactly a novel concept that a given amount of money split fewer ways results in a higher number after the split.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't think corporate enough... they won't pay people more they will use even fewer people

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You misunderstand my point then. There are ways to force a corporation to pay people more (unionization, minimum wage laws, sufficiently bad labor shortages etc). There is a maximum amount of wage that these things can extract out of a company, because if the labor costs grow enough to make a business unprofitable and they're unable to either raise prices or cut things enough to compensate, then that business will shut down instead. Increasing the amount of revenue per employee raises this theoretical ceiling on what can be paid. The method to actually get them to pay that wage is beyond the scope of my point, just that whatever method one might prefer has a higher maximum on what it can get when productivity is higher.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wasn't the op, but look at what companies have done in the past... they find reasons not to pay people more... or just fire everyone and shut the whole building down because it's cheaper for them than paying people more...

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those workers don't have direct access to profits. That's how capitalism works. The money isn't split between them. It goes to the owners pockets. That's why AI is a thing.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know that. My point wasn't that automation will make companies behave differently, but that the maximum demand that can be forced upon a business by things like unions is increased if the pool of money they can demand from before the business can't operate anymore is larger. What I said is applicable for economic systems beyond capitalism, for that matter, since it's just a more specific way of saying that the average person can theoretically have more things when the average number of things made per person increases.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh ok. So we're just fantasizing. Yeah I'd like gulliotines with billionaire names on them.

What do you think the percentage of companies with 'things like unions' are? Do you think companies with the resources to deploy AI like this have unions?

Edit: You're literally describing trickle down economics. How's that going for you?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dont know the economic stats on what percentage of companies have unions, but theyre not exactly non-existent, I know people that work unionized jobs, a place I used to work for had one (not that I saw it do much, but I wasnt there that long), and the business I work for has them for some of the countries it operates in (mainly ones in Europe I think). They might not exactly be the norm in the US right now, but they're not some fantasy either. And I would imagine most companies with one have the resources to deploy something like this if they have a use case where it would actually make any sense to. Maybe not train a leading AI model from scratch given the expense numbers I keep seeing reported on that, but that doesnt sound like what this kind of application requires.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I always just use the app because directly inputting my order minimizes the room for error