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[–] riskable@programming.dev 140 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's easier to walk through the eye of a needle than convince religious people they're being scammed.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christians, Jews and Muslims would rather have their children raped than admit sky daddy is fake pedo enabler

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's a gross overgeneralization. When my synagogue needed a substitute rabbi, they temporarily hired Rabbi Kaye. When we complained that he was creepy and aggressive, our parents said they were uncomfortable with him and had him fired. I don't think he was even around long enough for anyone to fully realize how problematic he was.

That being said, I've met far more problematic religious leaders than well-intentioned folks.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 1 day ago

It is but based on historical record, it supports the thesis pretty well.

Good that your congregation acted to protect the children though!

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That's awesome that you were part of such a supportive family and synagogue, but your comment is giving "Not all men." Your experience doesn't refute the experience of millions of others. There's a reason we generalize groups who protect dangerous members within their ranks.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. It's even worse, I make it analogous to police.

When your organization is supposed to stand for X but a significant portion of it does Y, you don't get to say "Oh it's just some of them..." motherfucker your organization is supposed to be FULLY against Y

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Hmm, I've never thought about it that way. I know that when I hear, "all men are pigs," I think to myself, "yes we are. I've had a problematic past that I'm glad I've put in the work to recognize and reduce, if not reverse that behavior."

But when I hear that [paraphrasing] "all people who believe in God (uppercase because we've left out religions wet multiple gods) would rather their children get raped than accept that God loves pedophiles," I feel like I'm hearing a false dichotomy or a loaded question along the lines of "when did you stop beating your wife."

So, while I don't practice or believe in any religion, I have a hard time agreeing with the sentiment that all religious people love pedophiles. How does someone like me, who engages with everyone for some dumb reason, compartmentalize or approach a topic like this where I only have experiences of the opposite? I see toxic masculinity, racism, sexism, and religious oppression every single day—but I've yet to see (in my personal life) a known or suspected pedophile not getting kicked in the teeth.

I probably sound incredibly walled off and ignorant right now, but that's exactly the issue. I am obviously ignorant because of the fact that I and my community have always been given a voice.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, but it’s fucking fine If it’s true, not sure why you’re defending pedophilia here man gross look.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

We have put our best scientists to work to genetically engineer a microscopically small camel!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are a nation by scammers, of scammers, and for scammers.

Turns out a lot of the New Atheists - your Christopher Hitchenses and Richard Dawkinses and your Sam Harri - were actually totally cool with a right-wing dominionist government, so long as that government killed Muslims. The Randian Objectivists promised rationality, but only ever delivered new flavors of bigotry. The Neoliberal Egalitarians promised a clean separation of Church and State, right up until they looked at the poll numbers and discovered you could pick up 2-pts in Maine by punching a Transgender person. The Liberal Unitarians and squishy Agnostics keep showing up to pay $120/ticket to see abused dancers perform Shen Yun and send billion dollar checks to genocidal Zionists abroad.

Like, religion sucks yadda yadda. But I don't see that secular dividend. Would the world be a better place if Televangelist Private Jets were owned by more Home Shopping Network con-artists, instead?

[–] Sylaran@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least home shopping network cons would pay taxes

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'll believe that when I see the receipts.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No shit. It's solely about the money.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Only a business puts they take 10% of your income in their on boarding contract. That alone tells you most organized religions are a scam. Denominations are just franchises at this point just like McDonald's.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 12 points 1 day ago

It is also about access to children to rape tbh

Seems like the bigger the grifter the higher chance he is a pedo

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Tax-free, too!

[–] remon@ani.social 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

South Park made fun of that in 1999 with the episode "Starvin' Marvin in Space".

In that episode a Christian televangelists network raise the money for an entire spaceship with lasers and deflector shields and all (a lot of Star Trek/Wars references).

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interview with Kenneth Copeland about why he flies on Private Jets (it'll make your blood boil)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's rare that you can actually see him try to suppress the demon within him.

I have this thought every single time I see him. If a conspiracy theory nut presented evidence that someone is really a demon wearing a human-suit, I’d probably hand-wave them away… Unless they were talking about Kenneth Copeland. He’s probably the only instance where I’d be inclined to believe the conspiracy theorist.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

That is some creature wearing an Edgar Suit and calling itself Kenneth Copeland.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going to look for this link to post here if it wasn't already.

Timestamp 3:15 is just before the mask falls off.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

He's doing a pretty good impression of a deamon.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A waste of space and oxygen, those televangelists are.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

"god told me we must buy this plane."

^we^ ^accept^ ^visa,^ ^checks,^ ^cash^ ^or^ ^crypto^

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

OMG LEMMY HAS VIDEO SUPPORT?

No it is still hosted elsewhere? Jerboa plays it nicely

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Just like Jesus wanted!

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You expect them to ride a regular plane filled with demons?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sam and Dean did it and they turned out fine! Uh, sort of.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

But how many times did Sam die during the flight?

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Fuck private jets and fuck the people who own and sell them.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I would argue violence/force is very christian. There's a reason it took over Europe, and in later centuries it sought the rest of the world.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Before I open the link, I bet this is the interview where the demon inside Kenneth Copeland was close to getting out and killing the reporter.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Oh unpopular ones do too. No job makes more money for the particularly enterprising and soulless as preaching does here.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This auto plays, and opens the video when tapped instead of pausing.

Had a quick look on settings and there wasn't a switch to have autoplay turned off.

Does anyone know where an autoplay or a pause switch is?

[–] Matthew@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Nobody knows what you are using to browse Lemmy, it can be very different depending on the client.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

Don't forget to put five in the plate nanna. It's going to a good cause...

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Yep. I'm a Christian, and I'm pretty sure they aren't.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

A bit off-topic, but how the fuck can anyone think someone like this is connected to god?

https://youtu.be/t2FboQCrv8o

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=t2FboQCrv8o

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They are closer to God because they fly in the sky.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Makes perfect sense, can't argue with that.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 3 points 4 hours ago

Religión is the predecessor of politics. Manipulative, self-serving, yet primitive, and surprisingly effective despite its crudeness.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There will always be people succeptible to this kind of grift, but people have also been calling out this BS for decades.

Genesis - Jesus He Knows Me

Well, I'm countin' my blessings 'Cause I've found true happiness 'Cause I'm gettin' richer Day by day

Full lyrics

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I love Genesis, know the song pretty well. I was a kid when We Can't Dance was released, it brings some fond memories!

Edit: And Fading Lights is starting to make a lot of sense as I grow older.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Of course they do. When televangelists go to an airport, they rest their hands on their private jet and then confess their sins and express their gratitude for their good fortune through the words of Saint Reznor: "My whole existence is flawed. You bring me closer to god."

And then they have like... a totally wicked cocaine sex party in the air.

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