It's easier to walk through the eye of a needle than convince religious people they're being scammed.
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Christians, Jews and Muslims would rather have their children raped than admit sky daddy is fake pedo enabler
That's a gross overgeneralization. When my synagogue needed a substitute rabbi, they temporarily hired Rabbi Kaye. When we complained that he was creepy and aggressive, our parents said they were uncomfortable with him and had him fired. I don't think he was even around long enough for anyone to fully realize how problematic he was.
That being said, I've met far more problematic religious leaders than well-intentioned folks.
It is but based on historical record, it supports the thesis pretty well.
Good that your congregation acted to protect the children though!
That's awesome that you were part of such a supportive family and synagogue, but your comment is giving "Not all men." Your experience doesn't refute the experience of millions of others. There's a reason we generalize groups who protect dangerous members within their ranks.
Exactly. It's even worse, I make it analogous to police.
When your organization is supposed to stand for X but a significant portion of it does Y, you don't get to say "Oh it's just some of them..." motherfucker your organization is supposed to be FULLY against Y
By that logic, it might be safe to say that I'm even worse than you're describing because I don't consider myself part of that organization.
But you might have a point that I somewhat understand. I used to volunteer at my friend's church as often as possible, because I loved what they did for the community, how they supported LGBTQ+ rights, the fact that they also suspected a leader of being creepy around kids and excommunicated/reported him. But then, when the older folks in his congregation successfully switched the church from UMC to GMC, and the younger and more liberal members didn't revolt, I stopped associating with the church altogether.
I'm starting to kinda get a clearer picture because, I definitely get the "some cops are decent people, but they're bastards for joining the ranks because ACAB." But, in the past, I've not been able to say "fuck the religious community" because they've actively rebelled against pedophilia. But looking at the communities now, suddenly supporting queer-hate and genocide, I see the cracks forming in my rose-colored glasses.
If I understand correctly what you're saying, "organized religion doesn't require joining an organization that has a disturbingly lax (at best) approach to dealing with pedophilia. Therefore, even the best members are still members of an organization that's terrible on a larger scale. Just like how they can choose to join a problematic organization, they can defend their own choices without me carrying their water for them." Is this more or less correct?
Hmm, I've never thought about it that way. I know that when I hear, "all men are pigs," I think to myself, "yes we are. I've had a problematic past that I'm glad I've put in the work to recognize and reduce, if not reverse that behavior."
But when I hear that [paraphrasing] "all people who believe in God (uppercase because we've left out religions wet multiple gods) would rather their children get raped than accept that God loves pedophiles," I feel like I'm hearing a false dichotomy or a loaded question along the lines of "when did you stop beating your wife."
So, while I don't practice or believe in any religion, I have a hard time agreeing with the sentiment that all religious people love pedophiles. How does someone like me, who engages with everyone for some dumb reason, compartmentalize or approach a topic like this where I only have experiences of the opposite? I see toxic masculinity, racism, sexism, and religious oppression every single day—but I've yet to see (in my personal life) a known or suspected pedophile not getting kicked in the teeth.
I probably sound incredibly walled off and ignorant right now, but that's exactly the issue. I am obviously ignorant because of the fact that I and my community have always been given a voice.
Yeah, but it’s fucking fine If it’s true, not sure why you’re defending pedophilia here man gross look.
We have put our best scientists to work to genetically engineer a microscopically small camel!
We are a nation by scammers, of scammers, and for scammers.
Turns out a lot of the New Atheists - your Christopher Hitchenses and Richard Dawkinses and your Sam Harri - were actually totally cool with a right-wing dominionist government, so long as that government killed Muslims. The Randian Objectivists promised rationality, but only ever delivered new flavors of bigotry. The Neoliberal Egalitarians promised a clean separation of Church and State, right up until they looked at the poll numbers and discovered you could pick up 2-pts in Maine by punching a Transgender person. The Liberal Unitarians and squishy Agnostics keep showing up to pay $120/ticket to see abused dancers perform Shen Yun and send billion dollar checks to genocidal Zionists abroad.
Like, religion sucks yadda yadda. But I don't see that secular dividend. Would the world be a better place if Televangelist Private Jets were owned by more Home Shopping Network con-artists, instead?
At least home shopping network cons would pay taxes
I'll believe that when I see the receipts.
No shit. It's solely about the money.
Only a business puts they take 10% of your income in their on boarding contract. That alone tells you most organized religions are a scam. Denominations are just franchises at this point just like McDonald's.
It is also about access to children to rape tbh
Seems like the bigger the grifter the higher chance he is a pedo
Tax-free, too!
South Park made fun of that in 1999 with the episode "Starvin' Marvin in Space".
In that episode a Christian televangelists network raise the money for an entire spaceship with lasers and deflector shields and all (a lot of Star Trek/Wars references).
Interview with Kenneth Copeland about why he flies on Private Jets (it'll make your blood boil)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI
It's rare that you can actually see him try to suppress the demon within him.
I have this thought every single time I see him. If a conspiracy theory nut presented evidence that someone is really a demon wearing a human-suit, I’d probably hand-wave them away… Unless they were talking about Kenneth Copeland. He’s probably the only instance where I’d be inclined to believe the conspiracy theorist.
That is some creature wearing an Edgar Suit and calling itself Kenneth Copeland.
I was going to look for this link to post here if it wasn't already.
Timestamp 3:15 is just before the mask falls off.
He's doing a pretty good impression of a deamon.
"god told me we must buy this plane."
^we^ ^accept^ ^visa,^ ^checks,^ ^cash^ ^or^ ^crypto^
OMG LEMMY HAS VIDEO SUPPORT?
No it is still hosted elsewhere? Jerboa plays it nicely
Some own multiple
Just like Jesus wanted!
You expect them to ride a regular plane filled with demons?
Sam and Dean did it and they turned out fine! Uh, sort of.
But how many times did Sam die during the flight?
I would argue violence/force is very christian. There's a reason it took over Europe, and in later centuries it sought the rest of the world.
Before I open the link, I bet this is the interview where the demon inside Kenneth Copeland was close to getting out and killing the reporter.
Oh unpopular ones do too. No job makes more money for the particularly enterprising and soulless as preaching does here.
Fuck private jets and fuck the people who own and sell them.
This auto plays, and opens the video when tapped instead of pausing.
Had a quick look on settings and there wasn't a switch to have autoplay turned off.
Does anyone know where an autoplay or a pause switch is?
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Don't forget to put five in the plate nanna. It's going to a good cause...
Yep. I'm a Christian, and I'm pretty sure they aren't.
A bit off-topic, but how the fuck can anyone think someone like this is connected to god?
There will always be people succeptible to this kind of grift, but people have also been calling out this BS for decades.
Well, I'm countin' my blessings 'Cause I've found true happiness 'Cause I'm gettin' richer Day by day
I love Genesis, know the song pretty well. I was a kid when We Can't Dance was released, it brings some fond memories!
Edit: And Fading Lights is starting to make a lot of sense as I grow older.
They are closer to God because they fly in the sky.
Makes perfect sense, can't argue with that.
Religión is the predecessor of politics. Manipulative, self-serving, yet primitive, and surprisingly effective despite its crudeness.
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