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WASHINGTON (AP) — Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.

For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.

“Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote “The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits.” It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigney’s conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.

These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trump’s second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.

As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trump’s then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: “The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.”

Even Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, framed the idea in his own religious terms, invoking the concept of ordo amoris, or order of love. Within concentric circles of importance, he argued the immediate family comes first and the wider world last — an interpretation that then-Pope Francis rejected.

While their anti-empathy arguments have differences, Stuckey and Rigney have audiences that are firmly among Trump’s Christian base.

“Could someone use my arguments to justify callous indifference to human suffering? Of course,” Rigney said, countering that he still supports measured Christ-like compassion. “I think I’ve put enough qualifications.”

Historian Susan Lanzoni traced a century of empathy’s uses and definitions in her 2018 book “Empathy: A History.” Though it’s had its critics, she has never seen the aspirational term so derided as it is now.

It’s been particularly jarring to watch Christians take down empathy, said Lanzoni, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School.

“That’s the whole message of Jesus, right?”

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[–] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

The common factor found in all Nazis was a lack of empathy. Without empathy, we are capable of unimaginable cruelty.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

If Christ lived today, these people would be in line, with hammers in their hands, to nail him to a cross.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

"Conservative christian" is an oxymoron

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It’s worth pointing out that empathy is different from sympathy and compassion.

Empathy is basically just understanding someone else. It doesn’t mean agreement or acceptance. Empathy is usually necessary in order to manipulate someone effectively.

That being said there is a component to empathy—sometimes called affective or emotional empathy—that reflects the phenomenon of emotional contagion, or how empathizing with someone else’s feelings can sometimes cause you to feel the same emotion on a lesser level.

Sympathy is understanding another person through shared or similar experiences.

Compassion is caring about someone.

What these Christians are talking about is the way there’s a trail from simple empathy to compassion that can cause some people to get over the bigotry and intolerance they have worked so hard to instill in them.

I have some of these Christians in my family. They are good people who have been taught rotten beliefs, and to avoid any critical thinking about said beliefs. I avoid associating with them as much as possible. Religion is a mind virus and these folks have one of the worst strains.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

"Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can't understand how these people can still look at themselves in the mirror. I guess I'm not very empathetic.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

most of them are probably attending televengical churches, and only hearing a curated version of a bible verse.

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[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago
[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For fucks sake, can ya all stop calling these heathens Christians? Sorry but to be called a Christian you need to follow teacheings of Christ, I know, not obvious at all! -.-'

And no, no jew-like bending rules around till they fit what you want either (wierd line hanged around...NYC IIRC...to allow them to "work" when their religion forbids?). You have the ten tenets, follow them dammit. These dumb fucks break them DAILY.

And that's before we even go into teachings of, you know, being empathetic towards your brethern. You can even replace Jesus with Superman and...ah, sorry, forgot USA conservatists hate him too.

FFS USA.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can "No True Scotsman" as hard as you want but they're nailing this shit to your church door like that was the only part they learned.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't give a flying fuck my friend - I will continue to call bullshit. Stop calling them christians - they're heretics by definition, openly defying the teachings. Also, fallacy fallacy my friend, even if I used "No True Scotsman" - which doesn't even apply here because being a Christian does have requirements they don't follow so there's no redefining here - that doesn't mean I am wrong.

Call them heretics/heathens openly. I can bet my ass that would hurt ^^

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is plain and simple in the Bible: empathy is a function of skin color. The whiter the skin, the more empathy is a virtue; the darker, the more it is a sin. I don't understand what's so difficult about it.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

🎵 "I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!" 🎵

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Religion is the absolute seed of all that's wrong here.

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Of course they prefer the term sympathy. That let's them feel like they are looking down in pity at a lesser.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the root of this is a misunderstanding of Subsidiarity. Problems should be solved by the nearest, most local competent party available. That means I don't barge in and try to solve another family's problems when they are capable of solving them theirselves. The federal government shouldn't regulate signs in my residential neighborhood. Neither should the state. It should be the local government, my neighborhood association, of me making a decision for myself.

Nowhere in subsidiarity are we understood to be relieved from the moral obligation to be charitable. Yes, if your funds are limited, you direct them to the area of your greatest competence & the greatest need. Give a coat to your neighbor next door before you give a coat to someone across town ... but if you have the funds for two coats, give them both.

I think the bottom line is if your heart is in loving your neighbor, you are going to get it right. If it isn't, you'll find something in the above as an excuse to not give a care about someone else.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Jesus wept!

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

Naming podcasts sarcastically has officially gone too far.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think we can tolerate these ass hats anymore. I no longer have empathy for them.

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