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WASHINGTON (AP) — Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.

For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.

“Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote “The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits.” It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigney’s conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.

These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trump’s second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.

As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trump’s then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: “The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.”

Even Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, framed the idea in his own religious terms, invoking the concept of ordo amoris, or order of love. Within concentric circles of importance, he argued the immediate family comes first and the wider world last — an interpretation that then-Pope Francis rejected.

While their anti-empathy arguments have differences, Stuckey and Rigney have audiences that are firmly among Trump’s Christian base.

“Could someone use my arguments to justify callous indifference to human suffering? Of course,” Rigney said, countering that he still supports measured Christ-like compassion. “I think I’ve put enough qualifications.”

Historian Susan Lanzoni traced a century of empathy’s uses and definitions in her 2018 book “Empathy: A History.” Though it’s had its critics, she has never seen the aspirational term so derided as it is now.

It’s been particularly jarring to watch Christians take down empathy, said Lanzoni, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School.

“That’s the whole message of Jesus, right?”

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 155 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If this lot encountered Jesus here on earth today, they would deport him

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 130 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're the same people that crucified him in the first place.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nonsense. They would've just sent him to alligator auschwitz and made him eat rotten food from a bowl on the ground with his hands tied behind his back.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

Pam: "it's the same picture."

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are. Evangelicals are seriously so fucked in the head it’s like dealing with someone out of their mind on crack. And it runs deeeeeep.

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

In the Bible they talk about how people will view the antichrist as virtuous. Jesus condemns the pharases who are the religious officials of the day, for hypocrisy. I understand when you regretfully have to disobey God's words and want to call yourself a Christian, dispite your shame. I do not understand gleefully treating the sorjourner as an animal then chanting his name like you mean it. I call them antichrist-ians.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

These jokers had like 2000 years of warning of what the antichrist would be like and still fell for it. Unreal.

I'm not religious, so this is in jest, but it's still eerie.

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[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago

In order to justify their own bigotry, they seem to be literally abandoning the central teachings of the key teacher in Christianity.

When Jesus was asked "what is the most important part of the law", the two part response was love . To love God wholly, and to love others as we love ourselves.

When later asked how Christians would be judged, Jesus said that we would be judged as if we had done to Jesus whatever we do to the least among us.

I don't see how it is possible to reconcile bigotry with either of these teachings. I guess they can twist themselves into rhetorical knots and try, but it seems way easier to just decide to love everyone and leave it to God to judge us for whatever our sins may be.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Conservative Christians talking about the "sins" of others.

THEY SUPPORT A CHILD RAPIST WHO IS AN ADULTERER. 🤷‍♂️

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

Something something splinter log in eye something

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[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

1 John 3:17

“If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person?”

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 day ago

Yes but that was pre-Maga.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You can't expect them to read so far beyond John 3:16 now can you?

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

I don't expect them to be able to count to 16...

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

These dipshits clearly do not understand the parable of the Good Samaritan or anything Jesus did/said.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The parable where the good samaritan was deported for being a criminal foreigner? Or the sermon given by a young criminal who got hung at the cross?

That's what they take away from the bible and seriously I can't understand how someone like that can still call themselves christians. Tbh, that's the definition of "taking the lord's name in vain".

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[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Matthew 22:37-39 NIV. Jesus replied: “ 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. ' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.

Matthew 25:40-46 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

These aren't even out of context. But I admit these are copied straight from the woke red bits.

But perhaps Kropotkin wrote it better. Mutual Aid,1902: "...in all these scenes of animal life which passed before my eyes, I saw mutual aid and mutual support carried on to an extent which made me suspect in it a feature of the greatest importance for the maintenance of life, the preservation of each species, and its further evolution."

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Kropotkin is my favorite Santa. One of his most eloquent quotes. Thank you.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Right wing Christians want empathy to be a sin because it goes against their politics.

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (15 children)

As a Christian, I'm utterly disgusted by how these people are perverting my religion that's supposed to be all about love for others. For your enemy, even.

Feed the poor, shelter the homeless, heal the sick, visit the imprisoned and welcome the foreigner. That's how we will be judged, according to Matthew 25.

The pervert the words of Jesus. First the Prosperity Gospel, and now this.

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fun historical fact: Adolf Hitler was not actually an atheist as is often commonly believed. He was actually opposed to atheism and tried to establish a German "Reich Church" that would teach Christianity aligned with Nazi propaganda. Sound familiar?

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

In other news

  • women are at fault for being raped because they wear revealing clothes
  • the Good Samaritan was wrong, because that traveller was at fault for being robbed and beaten, why else was he on the road to Jericho
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Matthew 23 is about these kinds of people. Recommended reading, even for fellow atheists. Keep in mind that the scribes and pharisees that Jesus calls out over and over again were the conservative leaders of his time - “pastors and politicians” - behaving just as ours do today.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 hours ago

He generally referred to them as "liars, Pharisees, hypocrites."

[–] Azal@pawb.social 33 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I had a really good preacher growing up. Probably a big part of why I don't hate all religion.

He spoke of compassion, of the teachings of the bible as he felt was to be a good person. Viewed being Christian as being like Christ as much as much as one was possible, but people fail to live up to it, that's our failings, but to believe is to still keep striving for that perfection.

2001 happened, and the hatred to Muslims came. Then one day, the preacher is talking about an extremist, one that is hated by the government, outspoken to the government, that people hated and reviled. A man from the middle east. "That is our lord and savior." You could have heard a pin drop in that room when everyone was figuring he was talking about a Muslim radical instead of Jesus. It was a call against the fear mongering, to love our neighbors even if we don't believe the same, to not assume the worst about people. He described how we usually get Jesus wrong in looks, that he'd be one of those we'd be persecuting post 9/11 America because of his looks, showing a magazine cover where a group of anthropologists reconstructed what Jesus likely looked like based on what they knew of the people of that region of that time, had the magazine on display in the hall where people gathered after worship.

It wasn't a year later that he was removed from being the preacher of that church. Probably a big part of why I'm not a believer anymore.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

I think he won the best preacher's pulpit, one no corrupt church leadership can take away: Your heart. It will beat to his words, for many more decades to come.

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[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago

Conservative christian culture makes people objectively worse.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 day ago

“They should have tortured Jesus even harder! I woulda fucked him up!”

-Modern Far-Right Christians

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 1 day ago

And the republican jesus said "hate one another as I hate you". He then dropped kicked a small child for being noisy and asked the disciples why they had let the small child through

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Empathy is a sin.

Exposing pedophiles is a sin.

Protecting children is a sin.

Healthcare for Gaza is a sin.

Healthcare for Americans is a sin.

Military force against the American people is God's will.

Not sure what kinda fucked up holy war people still supporting this shit believe they're fighting, but it's definitely not a Christian one and you're commiting blasphemy by claiming it is.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

NPD is literally the lack of empathy and compassion. Why would we encourage people to be objectively worse people by discouraging compassion?

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well it’s fine to have compassion… for the right people!

The whole thing is framed to make it out that these people are empathetic and caring, and that trait they have is being abused by the wrong people. Refusing to empathize with those people doesn’t mean they are no longer empathetic!!

(Total BS, obviously. But that’s the loophole that they use to make this argument.)

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Jesus rather specifically says to take care of the poor and the widowed, etc.

Having no empathy is also one of the things that mark the evils of the end times.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is empathy a sin? Some ~~conservative Christians~~ narssists argue it can be

Mostly a venn diagram containing only one circle.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago

Key ingredient if you want fascism via christian nationalism. Oh, those gas chambers? Jesus blessed them!

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 hours ago

“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
“Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 15 points 23 hours ago

"Empathy is a sin" mfs when I kill them

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

now this is actual heresy

[–] TheHotze@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Its the opposite of a sin. When Jesus sumed up the law and the prophets into two commandments, the one dealing with other people was basically be empathetic.

" So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12 NIV.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Empathy was dead in the church when they didn't back BLM. That's when I lost my religion.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago

Being hateful bigots is also a sin.

[–] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago

My theory is that this is a play by the right to try an undermine anecdotal evidence and accounts used to persuade people. About a decade ago, the left tried to use data driven arguments while the right use anecdotal evidence, and studies have shown anecdotal evidence to be more persuasive. Now, the left has learned from its mistakes and is using anecdotal evidence and accounts, and it is proving to be effective in undermining the right.

Instead of pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians saying empathy is bad, because it doesn’t work, the left should lean into this narrative. Empathy is a way people will exploit you, data driven studies are the only thing you can rely on. Then fallow that up with explaining how to know if you can trust a data source.

If the left and use the rights own strategy against them instead of trying to fight against the strategy, it will be much more effective. They may be able to start realizing that global warming is real, and racism still exist in this country.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

They're not actual Christians.

[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

I might be an atheist's atheist, but if you are anti-empathy you aren't christian, you just like old testament for it's prejudice and horror.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 10 points 2 days ago

What we don’t understand, we fear. What we fear, we judge as evil. What we judge as evil, we attempt to control. And what we cannot control…we attack.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anyone who thinks empathy is in any way a bad thing is person who cannot be trusted in any way.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s worth pointing out that empathy is different from sympathy and compassion.

Empathy is basically just understanding someone else. It doesn’t mean agreement or acceptance. Empathy is usually necessary in order to manipulate someone effectively.

That being said there is a component to empathy—sometimes called affective or emotional empathy—that reflects the phenomenon of emotional contagion, or how empathizing with someone else’s feelings can sometimes cause you to feel the same emotion on a lesser level.

Sympathy is understanding another person through shared or similar experiences.

Compassion is caring about someone.

What these Christians are talking about is the way there’s a trail from simple empathy to compassion that can cause some people to get over the bigotry and intolerance they have worked so hard to instill in them.

I have some of these Christians in my family. They are good people who have been taught rotten beliefs, and to avoid any critical thinking about said beliefs. I avoid associating with them as much as possible. Religion is a mind virus and these folks have one of the worst strains.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

If Christ lived today, these people would be in line, with hammers in their hands, to nail him to a cross.

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