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Florida is now one of the most financially stressed states in the country, second only to another Southern state, according to a new report by WalletHub, which defines financial distress as having credit in forbearance or deferring payments due to financial difficulty.

“When you combine data about people delaying payments with other metrics like bankruptcy filings and credit score changes, it paints a good picture of the overall economic trends of a state,” WalletHub analyst Chip Lupo said about the findings.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 139 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Desantis and his wife were money laundering and taking kick backs from Medicaid through his wife's charity.

As DeSantis administration officials scrambled last year to craft a Medicaid overbilling settlement that diverted millions to the Hope Florida Foundation, lawyers for healthcare contractor Centene and the Florida Attorney General’s Office tried to distance their clients from the agreement, a trove of newly released records shows.

Over 22 days in September, then-Chief Deputy Attorney General John Guard repeatedly removed references to his office in drafts of the settlement passed among negotiators.

Centene’s lawyers inserted language emphasizing that the company was “directed by the state” to donate $10 million of its $67 million settlement to the foundation. The attorneys insisted that Florida’s Office of Inspector General or attorney general be mentioned in the agreement.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article311619075.html (look up Florida Hope scandal and there's tons more)

Hope Florida charity paid for hotel rooms, perks for DeSantis officials

It wasn't the first time the Hope Florida Foundation, which benefits a program spearheaded by Florida first lady Casey DeSantis, has failed to file key paperwork. In April, its board president told state lawmakers that the charity had not filed any tax returns, created a budget or conducted audits required by law.

The charity is under investigation after diverting $10 million from a settlement with the state's largest Medicaid contractor to a pair of nonprofits that then gave millions to a political committee.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article308664570.html

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rick Scott had big shoes for DeSantis to fill. He kept up figuratively with the fraud but literally his shoes are clownish.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Blue states need to stop paying taxes. Taxation without representation no bueno. We can take the immigrants an ya’ll can have your theocratic dictatorship run by the imbecile pedo con man.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

ya’ll can have your theocratic dictatorship

Nope, give them that and they'll use it as base of operations for perpetually harassing the rest of us because their politics don't work unless they're always on the attack, we have to actually deal with Republicans and neutralize their ability to harm us

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Fair point but it doesn’t seem like we’re going to neutralize anything at this point and it’s worrying

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trouble is as long as this is together, the red states will continue to play just like the Confederates pre-Civil War.

Notice Confederate states were/are all about "StAtEs RiGhTs", and they broke off because evil Lincoln was gonna come use the federal government to take control.... when before they were passing the fugitive slave acts where they could strongarm abolitionist states through the federal government to be forced to allow their people to hunt down runaway slaves (and go ahead and "accidentally" capture a few non-slave blacks).

The red states will do this again, no matter what.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly, I expect the Blue States to break away from a Red Federal government. That said, unlike the Confederates, the Blue States will carry legitimacy with foreign nations and goodness in general. The odds of winning a straight fight aren't bad, assuming that Trump doesn't go nuclear*.

*He will. The man doesn't give a shit about human life beyond his own.

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Blue states need to secede.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Give me just a month or two to move to one in advance, please and thank you.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (7 children)

While it's a nice sentiment it runs into the rather awkward problem that states don't actually pay any taxes. People and businesses pay taxes, not states. Exactly who is going to protect the citizens of a state when the IRS comes down on them for not paying their federal taxes?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

2nd amendment time I guess. We protect our communities and state from tyranny

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ok. You first.

That has always been the problem with the 2a crowd from either side. Momentum. The first few ten or hundred or thousand are considered crazy wildcards and psychopaths.

Luigi may be a patron saint to a lot of people, but ain't nobody stepping up without more momentum. And it never showed up.

This isn't any different, and that's why it doesn't work yet. Pay your taxes. Use the rest on things you support. Take that tax write off to give the gov a little less and donate to causes that are important. Get in arguments and talk politics at the bar and with your family, but put the guns away. It doesn't help. So enough of it.

Momentum is what's important.

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[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Shit states lead to shit lives. It's not hard.

They have to deflect from their failed states by attacking the successful states like California and New York.

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[–] Beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org 56 points 2 days ago (7 children)

@MicroWave When you have corrupt Governors and lawmakers that’s what you get. When will the people there learn?

[–] Whirlygirl9@kbin.melroy.org 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's gerrymandered all to shit and they're about to make it worse. that combined with the defeated attitude of registered but non-voting democrats and the lack of strong leadership further enhances the supression.

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago

When they have an education system designed to educate. Wait.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 days ago

Geez, red states don't make enough money and spend too much...

Mmmmm, where are all these fiscally savvy Republicans who make sure that the common man can see their taxes spent responsibly?

Oh yeah, that's right, they're all lying thieves who only entich themselves. The more Christian a politician claims themselves to be the bigger the thievery and lying. This says a lot about Florida and Texas.

California pays the bills for just about every red state out there. Fuck these states, let them burn..

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 36 points 1 day ago

Go fash lose cash

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[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Living in Texas myself, I've applied for and never gotten any kind of government assistance many times throughout my life. The one time I was able to get unemployment benefits, they gave me $500 one month and told me to pay it back two weeks later. I hate this state and truly wish I was able to move.

[–] PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same, I applied of for food stamps and medicaid after my kid was born. My kid got medicaid, we did not. I got 50$ a month, that's like half a single grocery trip. I called saying "this must not be right" The lady belittle me saying "do you know how food stamps works?!"

I was telling my ex we need to get out for years, and with a kid I don't think she'll budge. The temptation to grab my kid and go is growing, but her job as spa receptionists and "opertunity to grow" is more important.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Opportunity ain't putting food on the table.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If only there were spas to work at literally everywhere other than Texas

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oklahoman - I tried applying for unemployment earlier this year, and couldn’t figure it out.

When I was in college I wanted to apply for food stamps, you specifically can not get food stamps if you are taking college classes.

I desperately need legal assistance, I called the legal aid service and they told me they only help seniors with evictions.

I need to see a doctor and a therapist, I can’t. I have no idea what the services would even vex

I used to volunteer at the food banks. I know that process is giving up an entire morning or afternoon, having to bring a shit ton of documentation, and getting expired food. So I’m going to live on cans of ravioli and hot dogs.

I am so god damn sick of people telling me that help exists. There is no help.

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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Keep voting for trump ya bunch of dipshits

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

thats what happens if your state depends on TOURISM, and mostly farm work, and retirees that dont pay taxes.

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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

As somebody from Upstate NY, I can’t say I feel too bad for them. The south has been holding this country back for decades tbh...

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Alaska’s high rating could very well have something to do with the Permanent Dividend Fund that every resident receives.

But honestly, this ranking does feel like just another way to keep the masses arguing amongst themselves over which political ideology or state is right; rather than focusing efforts on the ones at the very top sucking up all the wealth from the rest of us.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to google, Alaska residents get about $1700 a year per person. That's not nothing, but it's hardly enough to guarantee financial solvency. It's probably not even enough to offset the higher cost of living there.

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If you have ever been low income, $1700 is enough to get your attention. You know where that money comes from and when you are low income, a sudden in flow of essentially an extra month and a half of salary for a rural person?

Well, you’re paying attention to that. So maybe have some perspective about what that kind of money means to a person who has a shitty truck and a barely adequate house and spends months in it through a long winter.

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Permanent Dividend Fund that every resident receives.

Sounds awful socialist to me.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Funded by oil. Looks socialist, actually more like a bribe to the voters to keep drilling

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[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Can we just break up the country already? Let the Jesusland states go wallow in their stupidity and let the rest of must continue on into the 21st century.

Fuck the red states.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not everyone in these states are Republican. Check out the results for any major city on them.

That's why Texas Rs are hellbent on gerrymandering. Otherwise of it was fair and square they will lose.

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup. There are good people in those states and we should help them leave. There is no good future in red states. We should let them wither and die or let them leave. They are a cancer.

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems like it would end up as 3+ countries. You have like Cascadia + CO/NM (maybe AZ?) and New England + MN/WI/IL and then Magastan separating them. Hawaii could just mahalo on out of this bullshit. Maybe Alaska just says "fuck this, eh?"

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I'm good with that.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

With the party of financial responsibility at the helm, of course.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well I'm sure their wise investments in apartheid, genocide, etc. will certainly pay off. \s \s \s

Seriously tho the default is the point. It's profitable for them monetarily and ideologically.

We, especially palestinians, are all going to continue to pay the bill for these delusional wackjobs.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Good and hopefully the decline continues in both red run deregulated Oblasts.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

FUCK YEAH!!! SUCK IT, FLORIDA!!!!

We are number one! We are number one!

Don't messes with Texas, bitches!

-PEW! PEW!-

Whoops! Celebratory gunshot accidentally sent a celebratory bullet into a school. Eh, the kids are used to it

[–] quid_pro_joe@infosec.pub 8 points 20 hours ago

I was born in the top 3 empoverished states, I live in another top 3, and whaddya know, my employer is based in the third. If I came across this article in the wild, I'd check the privacy settings on my browser thinking it's a AI-generated Farticle (Fake Article) created from my own metadata. Unreal. But yet, it's true. Last week I couldn't pay for my 1 measly city college class, so I put it on the only credit card that isn't maxed out. Most days I feel like that rubber toy from the 80's Stretch Armstrong. Big smile and streeeeetch those finances!

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

By average not by extremes. I think a few years ago a UN Special Report revealed startling examples of extreme poverty in several places in the USA.

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Jesus, guns, and beer will make it all better. Idiot state

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