News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
Blue states need to stop paying taxes. Taxation without representation no bueno. We can take the immigrants an ya’ll can have your theocratic dictatorship run by the imbecile pedo con man.
Nope, give them that and they'll use it as base of operations for perpetually harassing the rest of us because their politics don't work unless they're always on the attack, we have to actually deal with Republicans and neutralize their ability to harm us
Fair point but it doesn’t seem like we’re going to neutralize anything at this point and it’s worrying
They will feed the people there constant propaganda about how their poverty and misery is the fault of California or New York, and people will be committing literal acts of terror behind it.
Trouble is as long as this is together, the red states will continue to play just like the Confederates pre-Civil War.
Notice Confederate states were/are all about "StAtEs RiGhTs", and they broke off because evil Lincoln was gonna come use the federal government to take control.... when before they were passing the fugitive slave acts where they could strongarm abolitionist states through the federal government to be forced to allow their people to hunt down runaway slaves (and go ahead and "accidentally" capture a few non-slave blacks).
The red states will do this again, no matter what.
Honestly, I expect the Blue States to break away from a Red Federal government. That said, unlike the Confederates, the Blue States will carry legitimacy with foreign nations and goodness in general. The odds of winning a straight fight aren't bad, assuming that Trump doesn't go nuclear*.
*He will. The man doesn't give a shit about human life beyond his own.
But he is getting pretty senile maybe he will get 25thed. As hated as Vance is I doubt he will go nuclear but you never know….his handlers all have bunkers. I’m not religious but the pope dropping dead after meeting him is not a good omen 😂
Trump is not intelligent but he is savvy, and he has put together a coalition where no one idiot can hold a majority like he can. People only rebel when they have to or when it’s strongly in their best interest. The second can’t occur if you don’t hold a strong core to rebel with.
Blue states need to secede.
Give me just a month or two to move to one in advance, please and thank you.
Don't make us deport you to Florida.
While it's a nice sentiment it runs into the rather awkward problem that states don't actually pay any taxes. People and businesses pay taxes, not states. Exactly who is going to protect the citizens of a state when the IRS comes down on them for not paying their federal taxes?
2nd amendment time I guess. We protect our communities and state from tyranny
Ok. You first.
That has always been the problem with the 2a crowd from either side. Momentum. The first few ten or hundred or thousand are considered crazy wildcards and psychopaths.
Luigi may be a patron saint to a lot of people, but ain't nobody stepping up without more momentum. And it never showed up.
This isn't any different, and that's why it doesn't work yet. Pay your taxes. Use the rest on things you support. Take that tax write off to give the gov a little less and donate to causes that are important. Get in arguments and talk politics at the bar and with your family, but put the guns away. It doesn't help. So enough of it.
Momentum is what's important.
It took about 16 months after John Brown before the 1st American Civil War started. I would say that Luigi is an indication of a pot coming to a boil.
And momentum grew. You are right. But there are quite a few names lost to history that were a little too early or in the wrong place to be remembered. Not to mention, things didn't work out too well for him or his followers after Harper's ferry. Sure it was a catalyst, but it was one of the last major uprisings before the war. Not the first, and it is maybe just by chance that his uprising is the one we remember. We only have the fortune of hindsight to know that was a major pivotal moment.
Who's to say where in the timeline we are? That decision is decided long after events and who wins in the long term. But the inherent momentum, the zeitgeist, is still of upmost importance.
Because they are.
Incentives. A $500 rebate to individual taxpayers, and threat of prison or shutdown for company managers who refuse. There are a lot fewer businesses than people, so they are easy to track and hassle. People, on the other hand, have hearts and minds, plus are numerous. The carrot is far better for them.
Plus, California can introduce universal healthcare for citizens and taxpayers...then offer it to immigrant workers, who happen to be taxpayers that are threatened by ICE. That would incentivize these workers to get on board, they get to stick it to dickheads, AND get better lives in the process.
We could build a wall. The red states will pay for it
Blue states make it illegal for citizens to pay their federal taxes with threat of prison. Simple.
...you want a state to jail people for following the laws of the country that the state is a part of. You do realize that's putting the entire state population into a catch-22 of having to decide whether or not to pay federal taxes and hope that this whole protest thing the state is doing doesn't blow up in their face and leave every single person in the state with a bunch of debt that we all know is extremely bad debt to have (the IRS does not fuck around with unpaid taxes and folks who get into debt with the IRS tend to be stuck there for a long time) not to mention whatever retaliatory measures would probably be taken and implemented against the citizens of participating states
In short, it's a hell of a gambit and quite frankly requires a successful secession to have any hope of not royally fucking yourself over
It’s completely asinine. How many people can control what’s happening with their payroll taxes at all?!?!?