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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The bigger bombshell from the actual Atlantic article imo is that the administration is doing all of its communication via signal with messages set to auto delete after a week. No one expected transparency but this absolutely confirmed it

And this journalist had the golden key but he removed himself from the group after he was able to verify it was real. wuss

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And this journalist had the golden key but he removed himself from the group after he was able to verify it was real. wuss

Doing anything else probably would have exposed them to criminal liability, especially if any classified material was discussed. Then consider how openly hostile this administration has been to journalists, and it's not a stretch to imagine the AG bringing bogus espionage charges in response to something like this.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago

You accept risks when you take the job. He used his discretion here and did not release classified info that could compromise operations. sometimes doing what is morally and ethically right does not align with what is legal

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

So they're still afraid of accountability.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is absolutely staggering. I’m still trying to process the fact that senior U.S. officials—people at the highest levels of government—were casually texting war plans over Signal, an app that’s not even approved for classified communications. Not only that, but they accidentally added a journalist to the group chat. And then? Just carried on like nothing happened. No one noticed. No one asked questions. They dropped operational details, discussed strategy, named targets, and then capped it all off with high-five emojis.

It’s not just irresponsible—it’s surreal. This isn’t a parody or a leaked TV script. This happened. They talked about military strikes the same way people coordinate a fantasy football draft. And then, as if to hammer home just how broken our national security culture has become, they celebrated the bombing of a foreign country with emojis. Fire, flags, praying hands, muscle arms. Like they’d just won a pickup basketball game.

What’s worse—what really makes my blood boil—is that nothing will come of it. Nothing. There won’t be hearings. No one will be fired. There won’t even be a slap on the wrist. The fact that a sitting Secretary of Defense might have violated the Espionage Act by leaking sensitive war plans over an unsecured app to a journalist should be a full-blown national scandal. Instead? Silence. Shrugs. Maybe a Fox News segment praising how "tough" the response was.

It’s the normalization of absurdity. It’s government by group chat, with the fate of lives—American and otherwise—being tossed around like a Twitter thread. And the most horrifying part? They all seem to think this is fine. Routine. Standard operating procedure.

This is bigger than partisan politics. This is about the breakdown of basic standards—of competence, of professionalism, of decency. If this doesn’t trigger national outrage, if this doesn’t result in real consequences, then we’ve officially accepted that chaos, recklessness, and emoji warfare are the new norm.

I’m furious. And if you're not, you should be too.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Well it seems to make quite a bit of noise right now in the MSM. As for the absence of outrage... I feel like everyone understands this administration is completely incompetent and no one is surprised. I wouldn't even bat an eye if Goldberg gets invited to yet another Signal chat called "We must kill Goldberg to send a message". I'm just glad that the anti-Europe attitude is on full display yet again, hopefully serving as yet another wake up call for Europe to ban every single American from entering the continent and closing down any and all cooperation with the failed state that is the US.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

When your NatSec advisor is also a war thunder member

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My wife asked who we are at war with, lol.

Panama, Greenland, China, Canada, Mexico.... take your pick. Who aren't we going to war with? Fucking LoompaLand is probably on Trump's shit list for stealing his look.

Of course the real answer is Yemen, so add another one on the fucking pile.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

Isn't that exactly why they were going after Hilary Clinton? Her emails?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

ahahahaha!

What a bunch of fucking idjits.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago
[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago
[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Old drinking buddies?

But but...it's a meritocracy and he's more than qualified for this position