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A local church is urging its members to permanently remove books from the Shelby County Public Library by checking them out and never returning them. The books portray gay characters and historical figures or explore LGBTQ+ themes.

Pamela Wilson Federspiel, who has been director of the library in downtown Shelbyville for 34 years, says the action is tantamount to “stealing.”

But three leaders of the Reformation Church of Shelbyville defend what they call an “act of civil disobedience.”

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 151 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how long it would take for them to cry foul if a group did the same thing for all of the Christian-themed books in the libraries...

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 49 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I mean, they open their doors every week to allow all who want to worship with them to enter into their space and share resources. Most places have prayer books and hymnals just laying around for all to use. Those items certainly wouldn't be expected to "walk away" typically, but it sure would be inconvenient for the churchgoers of that establishment if that were to start happening, I'd imagine. And the staff would have to replenish volumes to ensure they have enough on-hand. Every single week, this happens. If it's the church causing the pain that happens to start wondering where all the spare books went, that's gonna be a bigger statement than the library books going missing. Guess who will be happy to provide a general summary of all the info that suddenly disappeared from the libraries? If you guessed The Church Spoken Of Earlier, you see where I'm going...

The library might not be the target you are seeking, is all I'm saying. They are usually staffed by very nice and nerdy people with small budgets and a desire to help their communities have equitable access to information.

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Are you saying I should take those bibles from the Jackasses that stand in front of my university science building doors every semester? Maybe ask for the whole box? I wonder if bibles are recyclable lol

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The thin pages sure do make a nice tinder for the campfire.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You don’t want to smoke the ink

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that would require actually going into a church on a regular basis.

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[–] hkffepdsedzcfpjdxk@sh.itjust.works 104 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I've worked in libraries and this isn't a new tactic. The funny thing to me is that the library will almost always rebuy the missing book unless they were planning on removing it anyway, so the net result is a signal to the publishers to print more LGBTQ books.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is the butterfly flutter that brings about the first trans president and cements the USA as the queerest place on Earth, a country so gay that none dare challenge us.

please dear God I've never asked you for anything before and I'll never ask for anything again but

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] FrankenSpinach@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

ICBMs where the payload is glitter: new war crime unlocked. Glitter will be there for centuries to come

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 66 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So much for “Thou shalt not steal.”

But then, the most ardent believers do the most cherry picking with The Bible.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Even if they followed JESUS himself, they'd love God and then treat everyone else the way they would want to be treated.

Fake Christians, imho

(I'm an atheist)

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago

I'd say it's both, but for a hateful and regressive cause that I despise.

Steal the bibles from their pews. Steal the after-service refreshments and give them to the homeless.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is the Reformation Church of Shelbyville, KY.

It sure would be a shame if the bibles they leave out every day went missing.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (22 children)

Yeah, so when you take something that isn't yours and don't give it back. That's theft.

Of course religious freaks are going to create their own reality in which theft isn't theft. They're pros at creating alternate realities when it benefits them.

These are criminals not only committing theft, but also a hate crime.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

Sue the church for damages, both physical and mental. It should cost them a lot to promote bigotry and hate.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The library will just bill them after a year. What idiots.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And then ban the people from the library.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they would find out if they could read

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Imagine doing shit like this and thinking history will remember you fondly.

“Are we the baddies?”

[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Shocked by this. The pastor seems like a great guy with totally normal opinions.

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[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 12 points 5 days ago

Sounds like they're this far --><-- away from honor killing their daughters.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The way to fight this is easy. Offer to buy new library copies. Eventually they'll run out of people without overdue books.

Burning or disposing of the books will also generate bad press because it associates them with their kindred spirits: Nazis and church censors.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Civil disobedience often comes with the cost of breaking the law and enduring the consequences.

You may not agree with their non violent protest but as long as they suffer the consequences, I'm okay with it.

Just tell me where to donate to replace the books so they can accrue more punishment.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Civil disobedience is a peaceful way to protest unfair laws when the regular methods of changing the law are too restricted or too slow to protect the civil rights of citizens. Civil disobedience in this case would be refusing to check out or read books that they find objectionable, if the government were to mandate that they be read.

You could make the argument that government is mandating this content if public schools assign it to students, but there is no real punishment under the law for rejecting a school assignment. It’s that they don’t want YOU to have access to this information, which is the opposite of civil disobedience: oppression. If the government were to mandate the removal of this content, as these citizens would like, the act of disobedience would be to read the books.

This is stealing from a public library.

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[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what the "or" is for. Acts of civil disobedience are generally illegal or close to it. This is theft and civil disobedience, though not one I agree with (nor do I think it would be particularly effective, tbh). But something being civil disobedience doesn't make it not illegal or not wrong it's just the reasoning behind doing it.

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[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Go to their church, and borrow money from the collection tray without returning it

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

Hope they enjoy their item replacement fees and collection agency reports, and not being able to use the library at all 'til all of that is resolved (no matter how much a fit they throw when they can't use the printers.) They'll still pay for the material with their taxes. They're paying for public unbiased access to information either way. We'll serve LGBTQIA+ books the same way we serve faith books the same way we serve Bill O'Reilly's slop and tomes of questionable fad diets and endless ghostwritten hackjob murder mysteries. For free. For everyone.

Their loss if they wanna stay dumb and mad.

Pretty sure God's not big on stealing stuff that ain't yours, too. These "churches" are cults of lost, confused, angry children, and I pray they find their brains somewhere along the way.

Thanks for supporting your local libraries, especially as we're under siege from so many angles every single day.

---With love, a library employee (also a Christian)

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This ultimately just leads to more sales of the book they hate when the library has to replace it.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The religious.... Always willing to break the law

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago (7 children)

That's theft. There's nothing CIVIL about trying to erase the presence of a particular group of people from society ...

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago

This would be a good charity that sees what books have been missing, buy them and just drop them in the library return box. Also, picket that church and dig into the pastor's dealings with their community. I bet they have secrets.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Bill them fees. Then take them to court when they don't pay and if they do pay use the money to buy more of the books. These are fools that are used to being milked like cattle...use it for good.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

So if I steal a song book from a church that is okay with them. Right?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just send a bill to the church for the books. If they don't pay, you sue them.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If it's religious, yeah, it's theft. These assholes happily break every commandments they have "in the name of Christ"

Why is it always always the religious that really truly fuck everyone else over?

I'm at the point where if someone claims to be religious that I'm just assuming they'll rape their children because chances are big that they do.

It takes religion to make a good man do terrible deeds.

Mankind will never be free until the last politician is strangled with the robes of the last priest

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Theft, plain and simple. The only hope is that they actually read those books and learn something.

Maybe the library should raise and enforce their late-return-fees...

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's also a criminal conspiracy.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Typical Shelbyville.

This is what inbred cousin marriage does to a town.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 11 points 3 days ago

Wow these LGBT books are flying off the shelves! We should buy a lot more of them!

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Uhh so if somebody did the same for books about conversion therapy? Would they still consider it civil disobedience or does that become an attack on "freedom of religion."

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These dumbfucks need real hobbies.

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[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Can't it be both? No one ever said that civil disobedience is without consequences. The consequences here are that the people who stole the books have to pay for a new one and aren't able to check out any more books. All they managed to do is take it out of the library's collection for a little bit and increase the book's sales by one.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

If you ever come across one of those Gideon bibles in a hotel or similar, do similar.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gideons actually encourages people to take those bibles, giving away Bibles is kind of their whole schtick.

Sure, if enough people do it, maybe eventually the idiots donating to it will run out of money, but more likely they'd just think that what they're doing is working really well and use brag about it to get even more people to donate to them.

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[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s not civil disobedience if the root of the action is hate. It’s just expressions of hate and repression

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