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Trump is eager to breach Mexico’s sovereignty to attack cartels, officials say — just don’t call it an invasion

A new directive signed last week by President Donald Trump gives the Pentagon authorization to use military force against Latin American drug cartels designated as terrorist organizations, according to administration sources.

A U.S. official familiar with the matter confirmed to Rolling Stone certain details regarding the Trump-signed directive, which was first reported by The New York Times. Other knowledgeable sources, working in or close to this iteration of the Trump White House, say that unless Mexico gives Trump what he wants, this administration is serious about attacking its neighbor to the south. And according to administration officials and others familiar with the Trump administration preparations, it’s not a bluff: This American president wants to violently breach Mexico’s sovereignty — if and when he feels like it. He, after all, effectively campaigned on doing so during his 2024 bid.

Just don’t call any of this a plan for an invasion, U.S. government officials implore.

Speaking about the new directive, a senior administration official says, “It’s not a negotiating tactic. It’s not Art of the Deal. The president has been clear that a strike … is coming unless we see some big, major changes.”

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[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Imagine a timeline where the USA, Mexico, Canada, Europe, and the rest of the world's democracies that at least try to be diverse, equitable, and inclusionary... were all working together to minimize friction among their liberalized economies and cultures.

We'd be a spacefaring species within a generation or two.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its too bad we spent the last 50 or so years chasing the dragon of profit and letting it divide us. Profit. Some shit we made the fuck up.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 20 points 1 week ago

Even the original space race was about ICBMs and intelligence gathering satellites.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As per Star Trek lore, we’ve got to nuke ourselves to near extinction first :/

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[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm going to paste here a comment I made from 10 months ago

Ya know I realise this is complete conspiracy theory.

However, I'm still willing to give a 2-5% chance that if Trump gets back into power, within the last 12-18 months of his presidency he'll declare a special operation into North Mexico to 'secure the border', 'stop the illegal immigrants' and 'remove the drug cartels'.

Then he'll claim it's too dangerous to hold the election, or not appropriate, or whatever excuse because of the special operation. And then he'll postpone the election with the approval of the SC as a presidential duty and therefore not illegal.

And I know this is insane but every time I ask myself "would trump attempt something like this?" The answer is always "yes"

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago
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[–] deathbysnusnu@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] aramova@infosec.pub 39 points 1 week ago

Trump is eager to breach Mexico's sovereignty to attack cartels, officials say - just don't call it an invasion

It's a Special Military Operation. When the Mustard Mussolini is done fondling Putin's balls he'll have him explain how he pulled it off.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anything to avoid releasing the Tacostein files.

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Wikipedia defines an invasion as:

An invasion is a military offensive of combatants of one geopolitical entity, usually in large numbers, entering territory controlled by another similar entity, often involving acts of aggression.[1]

Attacking Mexico would be an invasion.

Just don’t call any of this a plan for an invasion, U.S. government officials implore.

Go fuck yourself. It's an invasion.

Team Trump Is Actually Drawing Up ~~Attack~~ Invasion Plans for Mexico

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good thing I don't live in Texas anymore. They're gonna get the shit terrorized out of them in response. This asymmetric stuff gets nasty and the US won't be able to identify good hispanic from bad hispanic based on color alone.

[–] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

What makes you think they'll even try to?

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn’t this the Plot of one of the Tom Clancy movies where Harrison Ford played Jack Ryan?

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Clear and Present Danger

It’s a good flick for sure. It also has Willem Dafoe and Raymond Cruz in it.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

ok as a naive Canadian can I just ask...What's the point of saying "Epstein list" over and over?

I know he's on it, you know he's on it, everyone knows he's on it so if/when it does come to light that he is INFACT on it and it's proven in black and white...then what? he gets removed from office? someone starts an impeachment process that goes no where? cause all the other motions for impeachment have worked out well. Or he and his administration and the rest of the GOP simply ignore it and continue on their fascist path.

I just don't understand it. Based on what I've seen and read nothing would happen.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

MAGA has been largely driven by the idea of globalist pedophilic sex trafficking rings. They were literally shooting up a pizza parlor because it supposedly ran child rape in its basement - when the place didn’t even have a basement. They believe there’s a video of Hillary Clinton ripping a child’s face off to get high on “adenochrome.”

And the reality is that there was a high level sex trafficking ring for the wealthy and powerful, that was covered up by various high level interests - but that their “savior” figure who was supposed to expose it was always in on it.

The hope is that MAGA idiots will see this and turn on him. But the reality is they won’t. It’s turned into a religion. Alex Jones seemed like he was going to break back when they first started denying the files exist, but he’s fully back on the Trump train.

It’s a hope that this will finally be the straw that breaks the camels back - that they will realize that their Christ has always been an Antichrist, coming from a misguided belief that these people are capable of seeing reason.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's hope that MAGA will turn on him once they see the list, because him not releasing them is actually frustrating quite a few of them who voted with this as their primary issue when trump was using it as a platform.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Never has the world witnessed such a wave of the stupidest people suddenly changing their minds because of a new piece of evidence. Oh, it would be amazing!

My instinct is to say I'm not holding my breath. But in this case, since it's not just the ordinary people involved but some of the spreaders of propaganda, I can at least imagine a plausible outcome where this one sticks. And by "plausible" I mean in the sense of a meme of Dr Strange holding up one finger towards Jim Carrey who replies "so you're saying there's a chance."

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 7 points 6 days ago

A lot of people are talking on the defaults, but why I'm on the train about the Epstein list is it's the only thing that I've actually seen rattle the MAGAt cult, and that's having to interact with the idiots at work and the like.

Trump ran on releasing it, then when he got in Pam Bondi said it was on her desk ready to be released, then suddenly "what list?" then told to pay no attention to the list.

These people are awful and willing to support a dictator, but apparently they draw the line at supporting someone diddling kids. So keeping the Epstein list in the news cycle gives one of the only two places I've seen Trump lose control over his cult, the only other one was when he suggested they take the vaccine early on, and he pivoted when the booing started. This one he can't pivot out of.

So I'll do the one that might keep a few potential brownshirts from joining, instead of trying to point out he's an authoritarian fascist which they'll just call me a commie and then ask him to step on their neck harder.

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Epstein list

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'd back a cartel if they assassinated Trump et al.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would also back any cartel that could pull this off. Would love to see the documentary after too.

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[–] littlebigendian@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My friends in Canada, I hope you know he is coming to take your land as well. This is a runaway train & other counties will have to intervene

[–] Azal@pawb.social 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Speaking as someone who's equidistant between them, I'm hoping Canada and Mexico are working hard on talks behind the US's back on a mutual defense pact, preferably with the EU. The US is WAY too big to allow to take countries while telling others "It'll be fine, we won't bother you." like Germany did in its last invasion tour.

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

I’ll believe it when I see it. Everything right now is just a giant distraction from The You Know What PDF Files

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yes, their plans and everything else that evacuates from this turd circus are awful, but bear in mind they’re not very good at anything at all. I’m sure the plan is to land at Belize and drive up in unmarked Penske rental trucks.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Putin is coaching him, he's been convinced "strong men annex neighbouring territory" and wants to be like Russia is to Ukraine.

It's the same thing that got all the Oligarchy in line, it's all via Putin coaching him.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

I thought he said he was the peace president. You know, based on literally nothing

[–] lack@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Wait, are you trying to tell me that this is some sort of diversion by Donald Trump, the convicted rapist and close friend of Jeffrey Epstein? That Donald Trump? The one who bought a teenage beauty pageant and constantly stormed in back stage to peep kids? The one who, in a complete 180 pivot from their campaigning, is moving heaven and earth to divert attention away from the Epstein files? I... I need a minute to process all this.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think that Mexico's government and the cartels might actually agree to set aside their differences. Trump and his goons would send all Mexicans to death camps, regardless of whether they are actual criminals.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 6 days ago

God damn, through his psycho filter Mexico probably just looks like trillions of dollars of tropical beach front property that needs to be cleared of the natives and any other dangerous wildlife.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Well, now we know the cartels have a copy of the Epstien list, or at least the receipts from their transactions.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The DoD draws up attack plans on every country. I would be more surprised if this didn't exist.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's practically an exercise for the operations people. The news is that there's interest in putting it into action, not the plan itself.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good plan for the US .... invade the country and take over but don't govern it .... you take the people and use them as labor and never give them citizenship rights. An excellent source of free labor that you wouldn't have to give rights to and literally treat like slaves.

At this point I'm hoping that global warming will kill us all sooner rather than later.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We should do a general strike. Global warming can be plan B.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not trying to defend Trump, but war plans are standard. Militaries and leaders are supposed to think of different scenarios and contingencies. The US drew up plans to invade Canada should there be war with Britain back in the 1920s and 1930s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans?wprov=sfla1

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So you just didn't read the whole thing, or what?

Speaking about the new directive, a senior administration official says, “It’s not a negotiating tactic. It’s not Art of the Deal. The president has been clear that a strike … is coming unless we see some big, major changes.”

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago

Mexico isn't NATO either so nobody will come to help them beyond material support.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He wants a Nobel Peace Prize so badly you can smell the desperation, but Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller wants to murder millions of people so he doesn't feel like a weak little Jew with a tiny dick, so he's whispering in HitlerPig's ear like Wormtongue, and encouraging war.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 5 days ago

Wild how true the old trope ‘every accusation is a confession’ holds here, the projection is real.

Trump was arguing in court that we are already being ‘invaded’ by Mexican immigrants, trying to use this as reasoning to justify use of military at the border, among other things like…. Oh I dunno, disregarding constitutional rights of habeus corpus.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Certainly Vlad gave his fucking sock puppet more advice on the subject during his visit to Alaska.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

Joining the war on Mexico, on the side of Mexico https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4jT05670l-U

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

And then American citizens team up with the cartel.

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