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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 125 points 4 days ago (4 children)

When is it going to stop being "He's so incompetent, it's like he's doing it on purpose!" and start being "Oh, he's doing this on purpose..."? This has been obvious for so long now.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd say it's part incompetence, part intentional sabotage. He truly is a fucking moron, but he also hates the US.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He's easily manipulated by corrupt people, including those who don't have the best interests of the U.S. at heart.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Like seeing Tim Cook gift him that golden statue so apple gets no tariffs...like everyone can see and stroke his ego.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 days ago

I'll take Russian Asset for 1000, Alex.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

There hasn't been a doubt about his intentions for a long time. He is, however, likely taking many actions because someone told him to, he heard a sound bite on Faux News, or he perceived some slight from social media.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, please don’t give him that much credit. If you saw him run a casino, you’d swear he was doing it on purpose, but he isn’t. He really just is that dumb.

I’m not saying he’s not also in Putin’s pocket, but don’t try to convince me that he has the brains necessary to make sabotage look like incompetence. He’s nowhere near that clever.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That was always Putin's goal. Was known as far back as 2016.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 days ago
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago

Since 1997, actually, when The Foundations of Geopolitics was published. Brexit is in there, too.

So far, it’s all going pretty swimmingly, though Ukraine is putting up more resistance than anticipated.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Especially notable to me that the article made its point without even getting into things like Trump effectively handing leadership in EV technology and alternative energy broadly to China, or giving the Chinese chip-making industry just the boost it needed to potentially be able to supply China's needs on its own, or making the US so hostile to scientific reseach that China will likely end up leading the world in that as well.

Yes - he could hardly do more to more thoroughly destroy the US's standing in the world if he set out to deliberately do exactly that.

Oddly though, that at least provides him with a bit of cover - if he wasn't such a blithering idiot, I'd suspect that that really was his goal. But I don't think he's even capable of maintaining focus on a straightforward strategy, much less a subtle and multilayered one.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

making the US so hostile to scientific reseach that China will likely end up leading the world in that as well.

That's already the case

https://theconversation.com/china-now-publishes-more-high-quality-science-than-any-other-nation-should-the-us-be-worried-192080

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

I would've guessed that but didn't know it. Thanks for the clarification.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Wow, who knew a Russian asset might try and "sabotage US dominance"?

That's just Unthinkable.

These fucking writers need to stop acting like they have an IQ of 76.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It is unfair to call trump a "Russian asset". He is just as much a Saudi asset.

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[–] mystixa@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

No 'seems' about it. His entire purpose is to put all public on firesale to private interests. Its the same as when he was trying badly to sell New York real estate in the 80s to the Japanese specifically, even though there was a real fear about how much they were purchasing giving them too much control over our land and businesses.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

Russian plant.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s been the plan since 2016.

[–] mystixa@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Facts! You can honestly go back to Nixon and watergate and even JFK’s assassination to see how and who the GOP really are and have always have been.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

It's already gone

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ive been scared for over a decade now that the US gov is following a similar pattern Russia did 20 years ago and that when the US loses it's economic and cultural dominance they will start to do exactly what Russia is doing and flex military might, except with the largest military in the world and bases in damn near every country.

If I was the leader of any other country I would have already started/redoubled efforts planning on how to engage with the US as an enemy years ago. Not 'hur durr they're already an enemy cuz Trump dumb', I mean drones at your doorstep your children weap at sunshine enemy.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is every chance of this happening. We're already seeing the start of it with Trump's remarks on Greenland and Canada. Those aren't just harmless quips. They're intent to (militarily) bully anyone and everyone into compliance.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If I was the leader of any other country I would have already started/redoubled efforts planning on how to engage with the US as an enemy years ago. Not ‘hur durr they’re already an enemy cuz Trump dumb’, I mean drones at your doorstep your children weap at sunshine enemy.

Yeah... that's actually happening. It just doesn't make sense to be super noisy about it at the moment. Anyone in Canada that has any capability to manufacture drones are getting military procurement contracts approved ridiculously fast right now. Like those kinds of things usually take years to get through the red tape, but now it's like weeks to go from testing to procurement.

At the moment it's only a trade war, and it would be best if that's as far as it goes. But if Trump takes things further... yeah, there will be drones at his doorstep. I wonder what something like this could do to Mar a lago? https://youtu.be/olYVvx8TfGk

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's be cool if the overseas bases had some balls and just said, "fuck it, we'll just side with our hosting country." I guess it could really happen without a mini civil war on base.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because the US isn't at a full on tipping point on that yet, because yes, that's when civil wars start.

US Civil War #1 started over a military base. If POTUS declares and attack on a major ally, that's probably going to be the starting gun for the second one.

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The U.S. Civil War #1 never really ended (confederate flags all over the South, institutionalized racism, legal slavery in for-profit prisons, etc.), it just went into a "cold" phase. It is certainly heating up again.

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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago

Yes. The goal of this administration is and always has been to hurt America at the behest of foreign interests. We have got to stop acting surprised when the people who want to hurt America, in fact, hurt America.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wrong again ....

The powers that be and corporate owners seem intent on allowing Donald Trump to Sabotage US Dominance.

...... dump truck Don is not that powerful or influential and you got to stop pretending he actually has anything to do with power.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah. It's an internal struggle between American oligarchs for who'd control the division of the pie now that it's almost stopped growing. The rest are side effects and distractions, albeit consequential.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Donald Trump Seems Intent on Sabotaging US ~~Dominance~~

FTFY

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago

That's why he was put into power.

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 17 points 4 days ago

Comrade Krasnov doing a fastastic job for his droogs

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

I wonder why? Hey let's ask his boss, Putin. "Why is the obese imbecile being such a cunt..?"

Ok, this just in from Putin:
"Paedophile pisstapes"
Wow, that could mean Putin was watching Grey's Anatomy. Or it could mean that Putin has videos of russian asset tRUMP pissing over the kids that he had just raped.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Well, to be accurate, Putin is intend on sabotaging US dominance. HitlerPig is just his hired muscle.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But no one in the us seems willing to do anything about it, aside from making the occasional mildly caustic statements online and in govt.

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[–] tylerkdurdan@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

make america hate again break american greatness again

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

as a citizen of Earth I say: good.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

The public got so tired of being no. one they voted the absolute worst possible candidate in history to the highest office in the land for shits and giggles. I mean, how bad could it get? Fafo.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh no! But the other option was so much worse... Right? ... Right‽

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those people never believed that and they have been trolling for over a year while they gleefully watch the world burn. They come into a thread like this and giggle like the edgy teenagers and lonely 20-somethings they are because they've gotten a rise out of you.

They will never feel guilt or shame. The best thing everyone can do is ignore them, forget they exist, and move on.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

Welcome to 9 years ago...

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Of course. That is the goal.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

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