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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ive been scared for over a decade now that the US gov is following a similar pattern Russia did 20 years ago and that when the US loses it's economic and cultural dominance they will start to do exactly what Russia is doing and flex military might, except with the largest military in the world and bases in damn near every country.

If I was the leader of any other country I would have already started/redoubled efforts planning on how to engage with the US as an enemy years ago. Not 'hur durr they're already an enemy cuz Trump dumb', I mean drones at your doorstep your children weap at sunshine enemy.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is every chance of this happening. We're already seeing the start of it with Trump's remarks on Greenland and Canada. Those aren't just harmless quips. They're intent to (militarily) bully anyone and everyone into compliance.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Trump's remarks on Greenland and Canada.

Also Panama and Gaza.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If I was the leader of any other country I would have already started/redoubled efforts planning on how to engage with the US as an enemy years ago. Not ‘hur durr they’re already an enemy cuz Trump dumb’, I mean drones at your doorstep your children weap at sunshine enemy.

Yeah... that's actually happening. It just doesn't make sense to be super noisy about it at the moment. Anyone in Canada that has any capability to manufacture drones are getting military procurement contracts approved ridiculously fast right now. Like those kinds of things usually take years to get through the red tape, but now it's like weeks to go from testing to procurement.

At the moment it's only a trade war, and it would be best if that's as far as it goes. But if Trump takes things further... yeah, there will be drones at his doorstep. I wonder what something like this could do to Mar a lago? https://youtu.be/olYVvx8TfGk

Trump and Putin are going to be together in Alaska soon, would be real opportune.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's be cool if the overseas bases had some balls and just said, "fuck it, we'll just side with our hosting country." I guess it could really happen without a mini civil war on base.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because the US isn't at a full on tipping point on that yet, because yes, that's when civil wars start.

US Civil War #1 started over a military base. If POTUS declares and attack on a major ally, that's probably going to be the starting gun for the second one.

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The U.S. Civil War #1 never really ended (confederate flags all over the South, institutionalized racism, legal slavery in for-profit prisons, etc.), it just went into a "cold" phase. It is certainly heating up again.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

I agree with this as someone who grew up an hour away from Harrison Arkansas, but I say #1 just because historically the hot war does have defined dates.

So far everyone's done what they've been told or simply quit, lets see how the FBI vs Innocent Lawmakers goes down though.

the largest military in the world

A military critically dependent upon components manufactured elsewhere.