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The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an 18-page opinion, declined to interfere with a 1931 law that carries a five-year prison term for simply having brass knuckles, also known as metallic knuckles.

A “ban on the possession of metallic knuckles falls within the historical tradition of prohibiting the concealed carry of metallic knuckles as a dangerous and unusual weapon,” Judge Christopher Murray wrote in a 3-0 opinion Tuesday.

Brass knuckles are usually a single set of rings that fits on someone’s hand. A punch can inflict serious injuries.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 237 points 1 week ago (32 children)

America is weird af. Ban brass knuckles but allow semi-automatic weapons that kill thousands every year.

Weird. As. Fuck.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People will still sell them labeled as key-chains or paperweights.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

This guy capitals.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They have been doing this for years. They add a little bump and sell it as a belt buckle, or add a little notch and sell it as a bottle opener. Most insane is it is fine to put a knife blade on it and sell it as a knife.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

I've got an antique real pair that belonged to my grandpa. They don't make em like this anymore.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You do realize america is almost entirely built on weapons manufacturing right?

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just did some looking into this.

Apparently defense contractors get paid twice.

  1. They get paid by taxpayers when they get the contract.
  2. They get paid by foreign nations when the equipment is sold.

It's so fucked beyond belief, I hope this generation can do something about it.

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[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Yep, they sell them as belt buckles. I got one at a gun show because it was cheap, figured why not. I eventually looked up the legality and I would be better off legally if I carried a pistol. Actually crazy lol.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 8 points 1 week ago

Obviously the answer to the paradox is to have semi-automatic brass knuckles invented.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is an honest reply. It really depends on the situation. Feral hog sounders are a very scary thing, and fairly common in areas that commonly vote against their own economic interests. That bit in the Hannibal the cannibal movie, about the pigs, holds its share of truth. But in a city things that are necessary outside of one should be appropriately regulated.

That meme about European woodland being pleasant and the American woodland being a hellscape, is not very far from the truth.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why can't I fight the feral hogs with my brass knuckles?

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[–] wieson@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to answer honestly as well. I looked up the numbers, and we have 2 million wild boars in Germany. Germany has roughly the size of Montana.

High estimates say, there are 9 Mio in the US, 3 Mio in Texas (twice as large as Germany). So the numbers are rooouuughly comparable, a little more swine here in DE.

I guess, the feral hogs are really back to being wild nowadays despite stemming from domesticated pigs. So I will classify them as scary as a wild boar. Which they are, they are scary.

How do we manage this? Each year about 600 000 boars are shot by professional hunters. The general population doesn't need weapons for that. And the hunting rifles are bolt action or single action, not automatics.

The main damage they cause is not to live and limb, but to property, namely crop fields. Our solution is, that each hunter is assigned a district and a number he must shoot. If the farmland in his area is damaged more than x% that is also his responsibility.

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Reggie Kray on the other side of the sea about self defense:

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The solution is clearly to start carrying brass knuckle guns.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Easiest way to shoot yourself in the face haha

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

angle might be more in the balls. not sure.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Michigan also forbids pepper spray and stun guns. They interpret the right to bear arms as the right to make gun manufacturers rich. By the way, a pistol also fits in one hand and can be used to inflict serious injury. Pistols also get used to ambush people. Ever heard of armed robbery?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

They're going to be surprised if it gets to the Supreme Court:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/577/411/

“the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”

Woman bought a stun gun to protect herself from an abusive ex. State of MA charged her saying that stun guns didn't exist back in the day, and were "dangerous and unusual" so the 2nd amendment doesn't apply.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Another weird af hypocrisy where MA didn't want stun guns to count but assult rifles were A-OK.

It truly is a wonder how America has lasted this long.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

America lasted this long simply from momentum and good courtesy after WW2. That's literally it.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

We had a run. Considering how much of our founding was based on and sustained by slavery, it might be good to call it.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (10 children)

By the logic of Massachusetts, you only have a right to a muzzle loader and a sword then. What would they say if I were walking around in Boston with a katana or a British officer's sabre?

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Those existed at the time. You're also free to choose from axes, clubs and blades to giant semi-automatic crossbows. Sorry, sorry no giant crossbows, that tech was lost by then.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

“the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”

That's why I'm allowed to always carry a vial of the rage virus from 28 Days Later, in case I get mugged and need to end civilization.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

Sap gloves are easy to make and not obvious. A pair of gloves with powdered lead sewn into little pouches over the knuckles and along the knife edge of the hand. A slap or punch will quickly put someone on the floor. Lots of cops wear them. You can get them online.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

But we still have the right for BEAR arms right??

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course bear arms don’t fit. They’re for fingers, and human ones at that though perhaps a cub could surprise a few.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, I don't know about you, but my trained attack bears have custom machined brass knuckles. only the best for my trained bears.

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US looks stupider and stupider with each passing day.

Brass knuckles? No no.

Automatic weapons? A citizen’s right.

The world is laughing at you.

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Metallic only? So you could make one from alternative material, like composites?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

composites tend to not react well to impacts. The reason brass is used, also, is because it's heavy and adds significantly more force.

I would suggest making a cestus, you can also buy "weighted gloves"... which a lot of cops just love, which are gloves with pockets over the knuckles weighted with lead.

The advantage to the cestus is you could say it was for historical reenactment, and you're just LARPing or something.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

No switch blades, no brass knuckles, oh well, guess they'll just have to shoot each other.

[–] Cattail@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

i never got that. arms shouldn't be limited to firearms, clearly the founding fathers fought with swords and bayonets so that would have been on their mind

Pretty sure fingers are part of the arms but ok.

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