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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 183 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't it be more effective to make the wealthy and corporations pay tax?

[–] kubica@fedia.io 82 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Worse - socialism, and possibly Marxism!

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[–] mcbenavides85@piefed.social 44 points 1 day ago

Straight to jail!

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I will never help pay down the national debt willingly. The 1% did it, so they can pay it back.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The debt of the nation are the income and assets of the 1%. They don't want the debt to disappear.

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

One of the most astute comments I've ever read.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that is the case

It has more to do with 50-100 years of reckless spending

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And what class is usually in control of the government?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So the US tax code is switching to a "Pay what you want" model?

Rich people: "Switching?"

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 16 points 23 hours ago

Ultra Rich: "Pay?"

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[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That sounds just like taxes, but with extra steps.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Except you already pay taxes this is just to bleed the poor dry faster, qnd drip barely anything towards the debt so they can claim the finances are fine, to keep the real government happy, investors.

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Might as well start a GoFundMe at this point. I heard people nowadays will throw tons of money at fascists.

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[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they're already getting 30% from my gross. Plus I somehow owe them an additional few grand every year.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

Speaking of, anyone else find it funny (read blatantly obvious) that you cant choose a tax amount this year on your W4? Used to be able to select withholding amount, now its just "We'll figure it out for you". I bet they were afraid of everyone marking 0 this year.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i would pay for a exclusive, patron only, early access to the Epstein files, no gimmicks

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

• ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As of Q1 2025 US household debt was $18.2 trillion dollars. This is like a guy who lives in a van down by the river asking a homeless guy to help him make his van payments.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc.html

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Even worse - a guy who lives in a big, white house asking it of a guy who lives in a van down by the river.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 8 points 1 day ago

Debt per capita is $108k. Median net worth is 121k. Median savings: $600. Yeah, this is something for the upper percentiles. The majority of the population can't make a dent in the national debt.

Its funny because the largest holder of US debt is social security. So most of the debt is owed to the workers. You are paying the money back you borrowed in the first place.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 19 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I want to see who donates. they can't make something like that and then not let us laugh at whoever does it

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[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 16 points 19 hours ago

US government loan forgiveness 🤣

[–] teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca 15 points 21 hours ago

In Bill Lumbergh's voice: If every American could just chip in $100k that would be greeaat.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

THAT"S NOT EVEN HOW THE FUCKING US DEBT WORKS!!!!! They owe YOU!! YES YOU!!! that money! You know your fucking income tax?? They are literally borrowing money from you for free and pay you back when you ask for it back with FORMS. You are literally letting them double dip, even TRIPLE dip your shit WITHOUT INTEREST. YOU ARE PAYING GRIFTERS through this dipshitted idea!!!! You want to help pay the debt? Buy a fucking bond and let it mature! I'm losing my shit. Fuck this. I'm out. Don't know where, probably to bed, but I'm out.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

That is not how that works at all...

They are in debt because for decades the government kept spending without bringing in tax money to cover it. They borrowed from other countries which creates dept.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

That is partially correct. The US Debt is a loan composed of marketable and non-marketable treasury securities which includes public debt (what I lost my shit about) and intergovernmental debt (money spent to function as a government). It's not a credits and debits system like you put money into your checking account to cover an expenditure. The US has been in debt since its founding. It's not a decades old problem more like a centuries old thing. No country on this planet has zero debt.

In this post of taking money directly as a "donation" they are hiding the fact congress and the current moron president in charge are absolutely completely irresponsible with dividing up the collected revenue to make the payment on those loans especially with the passing of the "Big Beautiful Bill (shit sandwich)". They're redirecting revenue collected into the pockets of billionaires, and their pet projects (OpenAI), while persuading people it's a boogyman (immigrants, social programs, the weather, etc) causing the massive swelling up of the US Debt. These idiots also use boogyman excuses to steal more money for already funded public programs paid for by you and the supreme court enables it. All three branches are completely fucking us on this deal and they have the audacity to ask for more. This is why I am pissed off.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You are willingly agreeing to pay them that money ahead of time for your ease. It has always been an option to not pay it until filing season.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 8 hours ago

How is this real?

We've gone off the rails

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US Treasury Department is now accepting Venmo and PayPal payments from those who want to donate money to reduce the nation’s ballooning $36.7 trillion debt.

We're all just trying to find the guy responsible!

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

Can’t buy yaoi on steam, but this is somehow totally acceptable and inoffensive.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No Patreon, GoFundMe or Ko-fi?

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Trump doing a weekly Patreon video to thank the top donors whose usernames are just a bunch of puns on slurs

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Amazed an NYPost article isn't getting more scrutiny on Lemmy

But either way it appears to be verified by multiple other sources

You can find the site here: https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago
[–] tnarg42@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, they do have a voting block that regularly donates to televangelists... Those extra private jets have to come from somewhere.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 6 hours ago

I think those donations were from decades ago. Apparently the likes of Copeland's "church" needs staff to bring boomers to the front so it looks like loads on tv

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 3 hours ago

Better to just burn the money; at least you can keep warm that way, maybe cook some hot dogs.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Someone posted elsewhere that this is a program that’s existed a long time, not from Trump, which would make it disingenuous to report on it as though its brand new.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The new stuff is accepting payments in Venmo and PayPal.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meaning Murdoch is stirring up old shit and making it look new in his fight with Trump?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

I’ll allow it.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Shit! I want to donate but I blew all of my money on Trump's recent trip to Scotland.

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