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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 198 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ten bucks says they gave her a list to sign off on.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 139 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100% this. This will be the hit list they want to go down. Pardon Maxwell, then say listen....here are the names (with no evidence but her word). Then they start making arrests. Probably 5 or less GOP members, the rest nobodies and Dems.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They won't arrest anyone. If they do, everything about this whole process will be subpoenaed and plastered in public for all to see.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 86 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That’s cute, you think the law matters anymore

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago

*for the poors

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Plot twist: Trump issues a blanket pardon for Maxwell, and all the Democrats she names. Whether or not they actually did it, for precisely that reason. If they prosecuted them, then the government have to prove it's case. But Trump can pardon anything for any reason, even shit he makes up.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That'll piss off his base because he's supposed to be the savior, not the swamp or something. They'll release the "names" and then nothing will happen because, exactly like you said, then they don't have to prove it.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He doesn't need the base anymore. If he holds on to power past Jan 2029, he won't need their votes to do it. He won't need any votes at all.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Public opinion always matters. Even kings needed their people on their side; why do you think they made up all that divine right bullshit and had the churches preach it so much?

Every country has the government that a sufficient number of people are willing to tolerate. Tyranny can only tip the scales, it cannot change the game. If a populace doesn't want to be ruled, it cannot be ruled. That's why fascism relies so heavily on the imposition of a hierarchy; because the people who aren't at the bottom will support the system that gives them someone else to tread on, while the rich and the powerful live it up at the top. But you always need to keep a significant sector of the population on your side. There always has to be an in group who benefit enough from the government to want to keep it.

Governments end when enough people want them to end. Democracy is just a way of doing it politely.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they throw the MAGA base a Clinton they might forgive Trump for being a pedo.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (6 children)

SHE'S GETTING A FUCKING PARDON!!!

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then, probably pushed out of a window.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

That's exactly what I was thinking! As soon as she's out its open season for those who would like things to remain unsaid. Probably.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago

She must have realized how much the epstein shit storm was storming and threatened to spill it all. I can't see any other reason. It doesn't look good for them to pardon her, that's for fucking sure.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago

MAGA did a 180 on her when someone explained her grooming tactics and they realized it's not all that different from how they get their daughters ready for dates.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

Not yet, but we all know it's coming

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

100 names is a suspiciously round number. Surely these aren’t just the 100 most politically convenient ones, right?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Maxwell’s lawyer, David Oscar Markus, said after the meetings that his client was asked about maybe “100 different people” in connection with Epstein. He said she did not hold anything back.

She didnt list the names of offenders or anything like that. She just responded to their questions about 100 people.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 1 day ago

So anyone who even said hi to him at one time pretty much.

100 person list: 98 Democrats, a delivery guy, and a repair tech.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Trump is #101 on the list

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Her lawyer said that the sit-downs this week were Maxwell’s first opportunity to answer questions about what happened."

I'm pretty sure that she was questioned by investigators during multiple investigations into Epstein over the years, including her own trial that sent her to jail.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes but this was the first opportunity for her to answer questions "truthfully" with a sword dangling over her so they could get the answers they wanted.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Truth? Nah, this is when she got instructions on what to say so that Trump is off the hook and she gets pardoned.

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[–] QueensGuyaneseMoronTrumper@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Trump’s personal defense attorney meets with witness to coerce her. Presidential pardon dangled to force outcome.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 7 hours ago

Wait, what the hell is an "auto-mod" doing banning people? That's not a reason but a method as well, flying in the face of the very point of lemmy's mod log system.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I'm glad this is decolorized, otherwise the orange would be too much to bear

"I don't know anyone named Krasnov."

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 46 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ghislaine Handed DOJ 100 highly selective Names in Shameless Pardon Quid Pro Quo

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago

How much we betting that all the names handed over are Democrats and Republicans critical of trump?

[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is very simple to predict how this regime will respond. Theyll release her list without trumps name and call it a day. Duh.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Close, they'll release a doctored list with the names of his political opponents, have her nod in exchange for clemency, and the have ICE drag them away in unmarked vans.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

This culture of pardoning criminals for handing over other criminals is sick.
In this case specifically Trump has a huge conflict of interest, and she is probably pardoned for NOT mentioning Trump.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

“Donald J. Trump in no way knew about any of Jeffry’s illicit doings. In fact, he was a model, moral and honorable person - perhaps the most moral and honorable person in the history of the world, except for maybe Jesus. Jeffery used to come to me, tears in his eyes, and say I wish I could be as strong, powerful and moral as Donald. Any mention of him in any files were related to him going to church and praying.”

-Ghislaine Maxwell

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah now I'm convinced they wanted her free so she could continue supplying the elite with young girls.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

There's no windows in prison for her to fall out of.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago

Pedophile Lives Matter!

-LITERALLY the Republican Party!

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 19 points 23 hours ago

I mean yeah, duh. Anything is better than jail, especially when you belong there for trafficking minors. In the likely event she gets freed, I hope she's harassed until the end of her worthless days.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

The Pedophile of the United States, folks.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 hours ago

I wonder which name she would never dare write down if wanting a pardon..

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Not that I care much, I wonder how many days she will last on the street. So many people want her gone.

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[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

I fully expect him to say out loud that 110% of the people on the list are Democrats.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The title is confusing- she didn't receive a pardon.

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[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is going to be the biggest nothing burger of all time. Question is will the maga base eat it. I've actually seen parts of th base fragment.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

At what point is it acceptable to advocate for violence? I’d argue months ago, but I’d settle for now.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What worries me is using this as "evidence" to arrest Democrats in office.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Markus also said that she was asked about “every possible thing you could imagine–everything."

So logically that would mean she's revealed everything she knows about Trump.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

On Friday, Trump not only acknowledged that he is “allowed” to pardon Maxwell as president, but he also tried to scapegoat others as he denies he ever had a close relationship with Epstein.

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