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Erythritol, a widely used sugar substitute found in many low-carb and sugar-free products, may not be as harmless as once believed. New research from the University of Colorado Boulder reveals that even small amounts of erythritol can harm brain blood vessel cells, promoting constriction, clotting, and inflammation—all of which may raise the risk of stroke.

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 128 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The authors caution that their study was a laboratory study, conducted on cells, and larger studies in people are needed.

Ok, nice to know, moving on.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why not just say, “Popular sugar substitute, erythritol…” in the title?

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago

I mean we both know the answer is for clicks

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 59 points 1 day ago

Add the fucking shit to the headline: Spoiler: it's Erythritol

[–] Bubbey@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always told my buddy who was dieting in college that getting fake sugar sodas isn't the solution, it's to stop drinking soda...

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not even that, find something healthy that scratches the itch. Your body indicates it wants energy (unless your addicted in which case its the microbiome or something), get it some berries or throw them in some water with lemon juice

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I've found that a lot of times when I'm craving something sweet, what I actually want is water. It seems my brain associates sweetness (such as from fruit) with hydration. When I can, I'll have some fruit. But when fruit's unavailable, I know I just have to drink more water.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So what brand is this stuff sold under so that I can speedrun that stroke?

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In America, it's usually branded as "sugar alcohol", and is found in many sweeteners as an additive.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago

Don't the food labels go into any more detail than that?

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Here in Denmark I've seen nearly every sugar free ice-cream use it. There's also a number of chewing gums too.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Maybe the ultimate answer will turn out to be JUST EAT LESS FUCKING SUGAR.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

What even uses this stuff? I only see Acesulfam-k, Sucralose, Stevia.

Edit: i'm european.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Brand names in the US are Swerve and Truvía. I don't think it gets added to much in junk food factories, but it is available in packets for tea and such.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Lot of things. Here in Spain I have a big box of sweetener little packages that have "STEVIA" la el big but it's 96% eritriol and only 3% stevia.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Here in Denmark I've seen that substance used in gum and sugar free ice-cream.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

It's commonly sold mixed with stevia or monk fruit

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

God damn it, I've been using this a lot. It's almost flavorless except sweet and doesn't take much to sweeten a large amount of water. I've been using the Truvia packets one in a large bottle of water with 1/8 of a teaspoon of crystalized lime or orange ( from a brewer supply co). All the other ones seem to have a chemical aftertaste to me.

Oh well, the second best time to stop is now I suppose.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I fucking knew it, this shit made me feel weird all the time.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you can, avoid any fake sugar. I love science, but science sugar tricking your brain that something is sweet feels wrong.

Or not. I'm not a nutritionist I don't know anything about anything.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Actually you could be a nutritionist if you call yourself one since it's not a legally protected term. Dietitian is the actual one that is a protected term.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago

Ah great then hell yeah Im a nutritionist I learnt food brain stuff.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Thats because it is wrong, youve hit the nail on the head. Anything that is sweet activates certain receptors on your tongue, and that stimulates the production of insulin. That insulin is then going to travel your body looking for sugars to break down. Thing is, insulin only breaks down sugars, not artificial sweeteners. So its going to break down sugars elsewhere in your body or leave free insulin in your blood. That fucks you up good and leads to diabetes.

ALL ARTIFICAL SWEETENERS ARE BAD, unless you already have diabetes.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Erythritol makes my entire mouth feel like it's on fire as soon as it touches my tongue. My body did me a favor on this one.

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[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

erythritol was always a not so favored ingredient for me due to the weird cooling mouthfeel and GI effects

now if it turns out that allulose is bad for you, I'm going to be SO UPSET.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

This seems interesting because they did some research in the actual mechanism that could create a cause-effect relation. Still need to be repeated to justify legal changes but that's a good start.

Much better than these "correlation" studies that say nothing. Like the ones saying "people who doesn't drink any alcohol die sooner that people who drink a cup of wine each day", that's totally faulty for a lot of evident reasons. And until now most artificial sweeteners studies were like that "people who use artificial sweeteners tend to have more health issues", like with the drink is reasonable to assume and consider that people who do such dietary changes is more likely to already have an underlying health issue that they are trying to cope with and it's obviously more in risk that healthy people that doesn't feel the need to control their diet.

As I said this study seems a little more promising as they did research on the actual mechanisms on which the health issues may happen. I hope it gets repeated enough times and, if needed, the product would be banned or properly labeled.

Damn it it's in Celsius. Glad I don't drink it often.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Meh…. It’s a research from the US. Let’s wait till more reputable sources confirm the studies.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

fair, but more reputable countries may not have exposed their populations to this poison to begin with

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[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Just another thing to check labels for, none of the drinks I have contain it which is good

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well shit I use it daily for my coffee and home-made milk tea. Reading all this stuff coming to light about sugar substitutes is gonna make me just go back to regular sugar or maybe coconut sugar, and I’ll just control my intake.

[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You can use Stevia. It's a natural product, zero calories. There is a more expensive option in monk fruit as well. I live on Stevia. It's easily available in groceries and stores, and reasonably priced too.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I do use Stevia. The thing is, all the stevia products I see at the grocery store are laced with erythritol. Does the product you consume exclusively use stevia only?

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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Interesting thing about most sugar substitutes is they actually kill mouth & gut microbiome.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

That seems like an impressively blanket statement when there's literally dozens of sugar substitutes that are all wildly chemically different. Insane that all of them would kill your mouth and gut microbiome even when they often work in fundamentally different ways.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Any evidence for this in Stevia or Monk Fruit?

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

here's a pretty good meta-analysis I found of various studies of stevia affecting bacteria in vitro and in vivo

the conclusion this paper comes to seems to be "depends on the species and strain of bacteria"

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so just like pretty much anything you eat then.

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[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I also don't have any studies, but I am aware of xylitol being used in toothpaste, chewing gum, etc., usually with the "assists in the prevention of tooth decay" type of tagline.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Xylitol is different from erythritol, but both are "sugar alcohols" so further study would be needed

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[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Erithrol is the sweetener derived from monkfruit.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I did a couple searches and I didn't see that mentioned. In my searches I read that monk fruit so like 250x sweeter than sugar, so erythritol is used as a "bulking agent" for monk fruit. So I guess they use it to dilute monk fruit and make it more manageable? Idk, I've been consuming both for quite a while and this is news to me, going to have to learn more about both.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

ethrythiol is often mixed with these two, but there are product with solely stevia in it if your interested.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stevia is often blended with it but only lists in the ingredients.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

it's also often blended with dextrose which is SUPER annoying if you're trying to do specialized baking or diets

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

its either dextrose, or maltodextrin, which are basically sugar with extra steps.

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