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I just went onto reddit to a intrest subreddit which happens to be NSFW and i got this, fuck reddit im glad i quit it. (feddit.uk)

submitted 4 days ago by Abraxas@feddit.uk to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 189 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

That is, I believe, a British law that they're following for users that appear to be in the UK. Not like they're going to just disregard the law.

kagis

Yeah, the Online Safety Act 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Act_2023

The Online Safety Act 2023[1][2][3] (c. 50) is an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to regulate online content. Designed to protect children and adults online, it passed on 26 October 2023 and gives the relevant Secretary of State the power, subject to parliamentary approval, to designate and suppress or record a wide range of online content that is illegal or deemed "harmful" to children.[4][5]

The act creates a new duty of care for online platforms, requiring them to take action against illegal content, or legal content that could be "harmful" to children where children are likely to access it. Platforms failing this duty would be liable to fines of up to £18 million or 10% of their annual turnover, whichever is higher. It also empowers Ofcom to block access to particular websites.

So that's what they'll be aiming to do.

Some websites and apps stated they would introduce age verification for users in response to a 25 July 2025 deadline set by Ofcom.[47] These include pornographic websites,[48] but also the social networks Bluesky and Reddit.[49][50]

Probably should be mostly irritated with Parliament.

I expect that using a VPN that terminates in another country will avoid it, though I bet that then you can't do things like buy Reddit Gold, if that's still a thing.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 155 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I'd add that if you pick Ireland as the VPN exit country, it will have notable benefits:

Sites that pick language based on IP will probably do English.
It probably won't add much latency.
Ireland isn't too bonkers and hopefully won't have any large collection of online laws of their own that become an irritant.
Because Ireland has a considerably smaller population than the UK, if people in the UK do this at scale for pornography, it will make the Irish statistically look like absolutely indefatigable horndogs, which I think will be pretty funny on visualizations.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Indefatigable horndogs best band name calling dibs now

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Please make the music ska. A band with that name, playing literal horns, creating a fast, upbeat tempo? It would be beautiful.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago

the Irish statistically look like absolutely indefatigable horndogs

What did you think that "wild rover" they keep singing about was? 😉

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[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If you don’t mind my hijacking, I’ve seen the term “kagis” used a number of times on Lemmy, possibly only by you but I think also others. Based on the usage, I assumed it was a Latin word to indicate some sort of transition or side-bar, but it seems to just translate to “you are”, which doesn’t make sense in context. Can I ask what it means?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Kagi is a new-ish search engine that is popular among Lemmy users. Those users are trying to get it to catch on, and have started using kagi as a verb, the same way people say “let me google that really quick.”

It honestly feels a lot like when Microsoft was trying to get Bing and their phone OS to take off, and started slipping product placement into popular TV shows. There was a brief time period in American TV, where characters had the disgusting line of “Bing it!” Usually while showing the Bing home page on a Microsoft Phone. It was just blatant ham-fisted cringey product placement.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah I've noticed this user basically inserts a "kagis" into like 2/3 of their comments, it always slightly irks me because it makes me feel like I'm getting advertised at. I've never felt the need to proclaim which search engine(s) I've used to research any particular comment on Lemmy, and I find it odd that the one person who does so regularly is doing it for a paid service.

Apart from that, their comments are usually pretty good, so I'm not accusing them of shilling or anything, but I find it super peculiar.

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[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's a search engine named Kagi. It's basically the equivalent of "googles" but for a different search engine.

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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 4 days ago

In this one instance I'll give Reddit a pass. This is 100% a fuck the UK government moment

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 52 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if they pay per verification. If so, I wonder how hard it would be to set up a script to just keep submitting new requests a few hundred or thousands of times a day with random photos...

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Random AI photos. That would be funny in theory, but they're just using AI to check the ages anyway.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sure, it's not about wasting their time; this says they're using a 3rd party service to verify, so theoretically they're paying for that service. It's about wasting their money.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

Good point. I just think that if reddit would see an uptick in POC and old people with these random AI photos, it would be a weird and hilarious thing to happen to them. Spez is in awe of a nazi (musk) and old people would send their advertising into a tailspin.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Was using a VPN to watch iPlayer last night and then hopped on reddit and was like "whereintheactualfuck is all the porn‽" Before realizing I had it set to the UK. Blew my mind for a minute

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

Anyone try a McLovin ID?

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fuck most governments

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago (11 children)

genuinely cannot think of a government that doesn't suck ass

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In this case I blame the UK government

I'm not sure what you all are doing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I blame all the people with "purity" kinks who took it so far they actually created movements and entire societies based around denying the most natural and harmless feelings we have as a species.

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

If any service requires me to send a photo of myself to use it, I ain't using it.

EDIT: lol wut, Facebook and YouTube want photo ID now?? I must be old enough to have missed out. My comment stands though, if I wasn't already a member on either of those I guess I wouldn't become one!

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Does a vpn bypass it?

Edit: btw yes I totally agree with you, I'm just wondering if that would be a workaround

[–] Nester@feddit.uk 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can use a VPN to negate this check. For now...

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But Spez will still edit your comments. I don't know how reddit has still some users left after that and the API train wreck.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (11 children)

"Estimate age from selfie"

fake beard sales dramatically increase

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Damn, the website seems to be "with persona dot com" and holy fucking corpo.

I say we all stay off the corporate internet and just come to places like this. Usenet is still a thing, but it's all us binary kids now. Maybe we could go back to how it was in the '90s and actually chat on the platform. There's IRC instead of Discord, message boards instead of Facebook.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Usenet is still a thing, but it's all us binary kids now. Maybe we could go back to how it was in the '90s and actually chat on the platform.

People stopped using Usenet for discussion in large part because of overwhelming spam problems and a lack of infrastructure to mitigate it.

You could maybe build some sort of system to mitigate that.

Maybe automated text classification is good enough to do on a distributed level, on client machines, now. Problem is that automated text generation to try to defeat it has also probably improved, and I'd tend to bet on the spammers having the advantage.
Maybe an out-of-band mechanism to generate information about posts would work. Have Usenet clients support pulling a database of scores for current posts in a group. Like, have some server(s) that generates various types of scores (advertising, flameware, etc) text scores for posts. Can incorporate various human moderation in that scoring, maybe let an end user subscribe to one or more "moderators", which I understand BlueSky does something like.

Honestly, though, the Threadiverse mostly does what I want as a distributed discussion forum. I'm not sure what large benefits Usenet brings to the table relative to it.

There's infrastructure for posting large binaries, which the Threadiverse doesn't really have short of (relatively small) image posting, but servers propagating the (large) alt.binaries hierarchy plus Usenet's bandwidth-heavy "broadcast" style of post propagation is also what drove up the cost of running Usenet servers and forced them to generally go commercial. Eternal-september.org is one of the very few remaining free-as-in-gratis Usenet servers, and they don't propagate alt.binaries. And I'd expect that Parliament would crack down on commercial Usenet operators if the Act doesn't already do so and Usenet sees a major surge in popularity in the UK for the pornography that this is trying to block; payment processors are necessary for commercial service, and easy for countries to lean on as leverage. If you want the ability to post large binaries in a state-censorship-resistant way, I'd probably...hmm. If a state wants to leverage its control of the network infrastructure to block access, it can make access pretty difficult. Maybe use Hyphanet (previously known as Freenet) for the files, then use magnet-style links on a more latency-friendly forum for discussion.

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[–] Abraxas@feddit.uk 19 points 4 days ago

I heard about this but I didn't really believe it, until now.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Try using old.reddit.com. Literally just replace www with old, or add old in front of reddit.com. This should take you to a version of reddit's interface which isn't complete trash and it usually also allows you to bypass the need to login for NSFW content.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 12 points 4 days ago

Reads like more material for the Palantir machine.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Here's an interesting point. I just went to an nsfw sub to see if I'd get that prompt, and it gives me two ways to verify - selfie or photo ID. The photo ID has to be "government issued", and maybe I don't have one of those. The selfie is a link for a phone, using a QR code and I don't have a phone that can scan QR codes.

This means that in order to access said sub, I'd need to buy a new phone or wait 30 days or whatever to buy some kind of ID. Even with all the other reasons this sucks, that seems discriminatory.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What I don't understand is that there are ways to prevent kids from looking at porn that don't rely on crazy shit like this, even if they do involve some government action. Having to send a picture of your face to a porn provider to view porn is the dumbest possible way to fix this. I suspect the real reason for all of this is people want to effectively ban porn altogether and dumb fucks are letting them.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Having to upload your ID anywhere is already sketchy as-is, let alone a porn site. What ever happened to the days of "never use your real name on the internet"? Computer class teachers would drill that into students' heads all the way through K-12.

When Facebook came along, I thought people were insane for posting things under their full name with their photo attached to it. I thought MySpace was asking for too much personal info as-is! Fast forward ~20 years, and not only are you expected to provide your real identity on several websites, some American states even require it now!

Honestly blows my mind how willingly we gave up our online anonymity without even the slightest bit of pushback. We all just accept it as normal now.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The world and the internet are so low on trust, I kind of wish there was some entity we trusted.

Some website where you could upload a photo, and people would actually know for sure that all the site is going to do is compare the photo to an ID, verify you're over a certain age, and send a simple boolean "Yes" to the website that wanted to know if you were over-age. Or, to somehow know that your account is human and not a duplicate.

We could do a lot with that, but as it stands, no person or entity can ever really be trusted with that kind of data; I think most wouldn't even trust the same governments that issue those IDs.

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