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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 176 points 20 hours ago

At least they were humble and didn't blame it entirely on Cursor... they also blamed Claude.

[–] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 120 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (10 children)

this guy would have force pushed onto main about 10 mins after this if he did have git

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And then lost the reflog by rm -rfing the project and cloning it again.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 118 points 20 hours ago (12 children)

Before Git, we used SVN (Subversion), and CVS before that. Microsoft shops used TFS or whatever it's called now (or was called in the past)

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 51 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Wasn’t it Visual SourceSafe or something like that?

God, what a revolution it was when subversion came along and we didn’t have to take turns checking out a file to have exclusive write access.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 40 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The worst was when someone left for vacation without releasing their file locks.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 20 points 19 hours ago

Vacation is a quaint problem lol, at least you know they're eventually coming back. What do we do about the guy who retired 5 years ago and still has locked files in his name?

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[–] dan@upvote.au 20 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Visual SourceSafe

Yes! That's the one I was struggling to remember the name of. My previous employer started on Visual SourceSafe in the 90s and migrated to Team Foundation Server (TFS) in the 2000s. There were still remnants of SourceSafe when I worked there (2010 to 2013).

I remember TFS had locks for binary files. There was one time we had to figure out how to remove locks held by an ex-employee - they were doing a big branch merge when they left the company, and left all the files locked. It didn't automatically drop the locks when their account was deleted.

They had a bunch of VB6 COM components last modified in 1999 that I'm 80% sure are still in prod today. It was still working and Microsoft were still supporting VB6 and Classic ASP, so there wasn't a big rush to rewrite it.

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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

Oh god, thanks for that fucking PTSD bomb

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah VSS was the predecessor to TFS, and now TFS is called Azure DevOps... whatever the fuck that means, Microsoft needs to get it together with product naming. Anyway TFS sucks major rotten ass. I have my problems with git - namely user friendliness - but TortoiseGit has put all those troubles to rest.

Nothing like that can fix TFS.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 points 20 hours ago

I thought mercurial was older than git, but apparently it's 12 days younger.

[–] VivianRixia@piefed.social 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

And throughout it all was the tried and true v3.0-final-UPDATED-4

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[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 18 hours ago

A place I worked at did it by duplicating and modifying a function, then commenting out the existing one. The dev would leave their name and date each time, because they never deleted the old commented out functions of course, history is important.

They'd also copy the source tree around on burnt CDs, so good luck finding out who had the latest copy at any one point (Hint: It was always the lead dev, because they wouldn't share their code, so "merging to main" involved giving them a copy of your source tree on a burnt disk)

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 112 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"Developer"
"my" 4 months of "work"

Those are the ones easily replaced by AI. 99% of stuff "they" did was done by AI anyway!

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

The first version control system I ever used was CVS and it was first released in 1986 so it was already old and well established when I first came to use it.

Anyone in these past forty years not using a version control system to keep track of their source code have only themselves to blame.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 26 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

CVS was, for the longest time, the only player in the FLOSS world. It was bad, but so were commercial offerings, and it was better than RCS.

It's been completely supplanted by SVN, specifically written to be CVS but not broken, which is about exactly as old as git. If you find yourself using git lfs, you might want to have a look at SVN.

Somewhat ironically RCS is still maintained, last patch a mere 19 months ago to this... CVS repo. Dammit I did say "completely supplanted" already didn't I. Didn't consider the sheer pig-headedness of the openbsd devs.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 20 points 15 hours ago

And Claude, off course.

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[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 87 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the elusive AI "programmers".

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 60 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 19 points 19 hours ago

Yeah this what you get when you code based on vibes.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 65 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

if this is real, that's the kind of people who should be worried about being replaced by an ai

it's also Claude

lmao

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Was playing around with it. It's neat tech. It's interesting all the side projects I can spin up now. It absolutely cannot replace an engineer with a brain.

I've caught so many little things I've had to fix, change. It's an amazing way to kick off a project, but I can't ever trust blindly what it's doing. It can get the first 80% of a small project off the ground, and then you're going to spend 7x as long on that last 20% prompt engineering it to get it right. At which point I'm usually like "I could have just done it by now".

I see kids now blindly trusting what it's doing, and man are they going to fall face first in the corporate world. I honestly see a place for vibe coding in the corporate world. However I also see you still needing a brain to stitch it all together too.

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[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 59 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Forget git. Sending zip files into discord once in a while it the way to go.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 20 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Congrats discord now owns your code forever

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not if you encrypt the zip.

[–] elfin8er@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

And then make sure to send the encryption key over discord so that the recipient can read it.

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 9 points 9 hours ago

I'd feel sorry for them. My personal projects will only harm them.

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[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 58 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I just want to pause a moment to wish a "fuck you" to the guy who named an AI model "Cursor" as if that's a useful name. It's like they're expecting accidental google searches to be a major source of recruitment.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 58 points 9 hours ago

It's a scary amount of projects these days managed by a bunch of ZIP files:

  • Program-2.4.zip
  • Program-2.4-FIXED.zip
  • Program-2.4-FIXED2.zip
  • Program-2.4-FIXED-final.zip
  • Program-2.4-FIXED-final-REAL.zip
  • Program-2.4-FIXED-FINAL-no-seriously.zip
  • Program-2.4-FINAL-use-this.zip
  • Program-2.4-FINAL-use-this-2.zip
  • Program-2.4-working-maybe.zip
  • Program-2.4-FINAL-BUGFIX-LAST-ONE.zip
  • Program-2.4-FINAL-BUGFIX-LAST-ONE-v2.zip
[–] zovits@lemmy.world 48 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually reassuring to see that despite all warnings and doomsayers there will still be opportunities for programmers capable of solving problems using natural intelligence.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If anything it feels like we're the doomsayers trying to warn people that their AI bullshit won't ever work and they're just not listening as they lay off the masses and push insecure and faulty code.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 40 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You need a USB C “Power Ctrl+Z” key. Unlike the regular Ctrl+Z key one of these bad boys is capable of reversing edits across system reboots until as far back as when you originally plugged it in.

[–] jad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 12 hours ago

Sounds to me like a glorified keylogger 😭

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 39 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

~/Dev/Project/file.ext~2025-03-20-Backup-6

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 36 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Ahh yes, programming by vibe. The vibe is always dumbass. Just steal code that has already been explained to you like everyone else.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Just save your prompts and vibes in a Google doc dude

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 8 hours ago

Good thing it's deterministic, oh wait 😃

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[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 35 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] smock9@lemm.ee 38 points 11 hours ago (4 children)
[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] djehuti@programming.dev 14 points 10 hours ago

Now Target owns them, I think.

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[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 32 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

subversion. those were the days...

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Was my first experience with source control, a bunch of Gary's Mod mods were distributed that way, think I recall wiretool doing that, spacebuild was for sure, predated my work use by like 5ish years.

I didn't hate it but definitely prefer git, but I'll take literally anything over not having it,

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[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Acts like SVN and CVS didn't exist

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)
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[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

Don't worry, I'm sure Cursor will be able to clobber your git history and force push to master any day now

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago

just press Ctrl + Z several times! /s

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Fake developer doesn't use version control. Big surprise.

[–] TedDallas@programming.dev 8 points 19 hours ago

git push origin master # moron

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