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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 252 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is giving strong "I hope nobody finds out I went to Epstein island" vibes.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 103 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vibes? I can feel the shaking all the way over here.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a writer, how can he be this clueless about character continuity and congruency?

All this does is implicate his involvement. I know he was coked out of his mind for decades but I never would've associated him with Epstein previously... Come to think of it, cocaine was probably how he met Epstein/Trump.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm gonna be hopeful and assume that he means there's probably no outright list of customers, as in, no black book with names, phone numbers and who they abused, but instead emails, messages etc that link a lot of very powerful people to disgusting crimes.

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 150 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (52 children)

Man, who would've thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn't expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans... whoops.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was just reading up on this subject, and for the life of me, even if King believes this to be true, I can't understand why he wouldn't just keep his trap shut.

I think there are two different lists people are talking about. One of them definitely exists, and the other one may or may not exist.

There is no doubt that law enforcement has created a list of Epstein's clients. It was even the subject of a judge's order. There are probably many such lists of people who have definitely given Epstein money, for example.

The question is whether there was some sort of list that Epstein kept himself, which probably would only be useful for blackmail purposes. If there is no blackmail intended, then Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed. The existence of this list was originally asserted by right wing conspiracy theorists during Biden's presidency. It seems the only person who has confirmed this list exists is Pam Bondi, who is completely incompetent, but lies frequently in order to cover for her incompetence.

This list may or may not exist. But I think if you assert at this point that it doesn't exist, it only makes you look like a pedophile. It seems the height of stupidity to say that it doesn't exist if you don't have a horse in the race.

[–] troed@fedia.io 93 points 1 day ago

Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed

Exactly. If such a list existed he would surely not survive long in jai ... oh

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[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really funny how all this denial is focused on the existence of a concrete "list." What everybody means, and what anyone honest knows, is that the request is for the release of a list of the people who went to the Epstein island and were associated with the convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein himself.

If you can convict Maxwell, there is evidence of what happened. Whether or not someone has already written a list is completely irrelevant.

There are exactly two types of people who would deny this:

  1. Die hard, believe-anything-Trump-is-saying-today, MAGA faithful
  2. paedophiles or people otherwise on the list

I wonder which one Stephen King is....

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[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 day ago (7 children)

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This also reminded me that in his short story "The Jaunt" Stephen King felt the need to include the following lines for no apparent reason:

Ricky and Pat were watching him seriously, his son twelve, his daughter nine. He told himself again that Ricky would be deep in the swamp of puberty and his daughter would likely be developing breast by the time they got back to earth, and again found it difficult to believe.

[–] mrbeano@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the graphic description of a child being raped in "The Library Policeman"

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And the sewers scene in IT.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm confused. Epstein definitely did the crimes of trafficking children to be raped by wealthy people.

Why would a client list not be a real?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it's very possible there isn't an actual "client list".

I think it's more about making a list of visitors to the island that have somehow supported Epstein around that time.

"Have some fun on my island. Also, can you help me get a loan and this bill passed?"

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[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago

Even if there isn't a document with a big header that says "Client List" and firm documentation of what crimes were committed, we know there are flight logs, there are victim statements, and there are records of financial transactions.

That is absolutely enough to bring charges against at least some of these people. We are accepting a false narrative that there has to be some chiseled in stone singular document listing bad actors.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because Epstein didn’t have a file in excel called “client list”, but there are trusted sources that when put together create a pedophile list.

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[–] TRock@feddit.dk 59 points 1 day ago

Stephen King confirmed himself as a pedophile

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

It's nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The guy did write about a bunch of children running a train on another child to "recharge their matches" in the book 'it' acting like it was a liberating experiance.

Guy also described a girl pissing and shitting herself in "the girl who lived tom gordon" in detail which weirded me out even as a kid

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wanna tell King he's a shithead pedo, but I just don't feel comfortable among the people shitting on him.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

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Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing "UFO" to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn't identify at some point or another. "UFO" does not automatically mean "extraterrestrial spacecraft."

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[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That part of IT might make a whole lot more sense all the sudden

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 28 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, every time I talk about king's IT, I go "It's great except that one scene, right?" and anyone who's read it agrees.

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It costs nothing to shut the fuck up.

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[–] ofk12@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

Bet he's on that list the fucking nonce

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Sounds a lot like Stephen King is very likely to be a pedophile that has raped children on Epstein's island 🤔

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol. Guess who's on the list. 🤣🤣

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Stephen King is on the list.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I can believe there's no neat little notepad with a bunch of names on it, but there's definitely a shit load of evidence incriminating a bunch of powerful people, given what we already know.

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Never meet you're heroes. Especially not if you're underage.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interesting, the mystery expands...I can't wait for all the people who are associated with that list to be catching well-earned strays from the fallout.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know nothing will come of it. Though they should all end up ruined and in prison, the same will happen as what happens with all “celebrities” at a statistical level. Nothing. Sure Weinstein is in prison. Diddy is not. etc… This won’t be another metoo movement.

Though I fucking wish it would.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 1 day ago (12 children)

So he's afraid of being on it. That's all there is to this.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok I love Stephen King but now I'm like wtf. of all the hills to die on

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[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, he wrote IT so idk if this would surprise anyone lol

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You telling me there's a chance that a writer, known for snorting enough cocaine to kill an elephant whilst writing a story where a group of boys run a train on a young girl, might have visited an island known for its drugs and sex trafficking young girls?

🤔

[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 19 points 19 hours ago

I know it sounds like a stretch, but yes.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 26 points 1 day ago

Ohoh, has someone fallen off the coke wagon?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only sense I can make is that he's saying the administration lied about it as a prop to get elected.

But, of course, prominent Nazi Pam Bondi said it was on her desk AFTER the election. And Republicans just voted not to release something they claim doesn't exist. And logic states that if it does exist and it exonerates Trump they'd be plastering it on every wall in every city, town, and village in America. Sooooooooo.......

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We already have the flight logs, right? These people flew to the island, that should be enough for something. It's not like we're going to find a QuickBooks pricelist with clients and sex acts in it.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean... We might. Realistically we might just get a bank account with deposits. From whom and the description

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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 18 points 1 day ago

If I were gonna run an extremely illegal operation for the rich and powerful, you can be damn sure I’d be keeping receipts for blackmail / insurance.

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago

Tell me you're on that list without telling me you're on that list.

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago

Even if there is no list (anymore), it's funny so many self-repport in the assumption there is a list.

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

I'd like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It's not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I'll believe he's a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.

Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? "We did it ~~reddit~~ lemmy!"

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