I give them a fiver and ask them if they need anything else. Saying 'they might buy something wrong' is a slippery slope to 'people shouldn't get benefits because they might buy beer.' And I have heard right wing politicians literally say the latter.
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I want them to get that fucking beer man. Being homeless sucks. A beer makes it suck less.
"Don't give that guy money, he'll just use it to buy drugs"
I'm just going to use it to buy chocolate, fuck does it matter if it's his addict or mine? At least I still have a house to eat my chocolate in.
I agree. Some people buying something bad for them doesn't mean they're unworthy of the chance to buy food or something else objectively helpful for life.
If someone asks, I'll offer to buy them food or other supplies. My wife hands out handwarmers during the winter. We used to put together care packages for people, but lost the habit. I don't give out money because I don't want to enable addictions. When you offer something other than money, you are able to more easily separate people who want a fix over people who want to improve their situation. Your resources go farther when you help the latter.
edit: One thing that helps people out a lot is buying them public transit passes. It gives them mobility to get to shelter/services they wouldn't have access to otherwise.
Worth pointing out that most people who help will offer food, but you can only eat so many times a day. Food is plentiful in developed nations. Most restaurants/grocery stores are throwing away and donating tons of food a day, these people will know where to get it.
You can't buy shelter with food. Supplies are great, but they also wont help someone off of the street.
It's not an easy problem to solve, but when I'm helping someone I don't think it's my place to be the morality police. In a perfect world, we would have systems in place to help these people overcome, or prevent it in the first place . But we don't live in a perfect world.
They likely can't buy shelter with a fiver or whatever you decide to give them either. The truth is that charities, food banks, and churches are much better equipped to supply the homeless with what they need because it isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, which is why I donate to those organizations instead of trying to hand out money.
Let's also be real: not wanting to enable addictions is not about policing morality. It's about harm prevention. The drugs and alcohol they may buy with your money is likely to do more harm than good in a very practical sense and has nothing to do with my personal beliefs.
At the end of the day, your money won't help them a majority of the time. Offering food or supplies gives them the opportunity to tell me what they need short term rather than me guessing or leaving things up to chance. Long term solutions are provided by other organizations, and your money is better spent there.
They likely can't buy shelter with a fiver or whatever you decide to give them either. The truth is that charities, food banks, and churches are much better equipped to supply the homeless with what they need because it isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, which is why I donate to those organizations instead of trying to hand out money.
What world do you live in that a fiver can buy someone a substantive quantity of hard, addictive drugs? You're being completely disengenious here and asserting more moral policing. The absolute worst case scenario is that they use my fiver to get just enough of a hit to stave off withdrawal symptoms, and even if that's the only relief I give them, it's still better than offering more food to someone who isn't hungry.
The solutions you are suggesting are turning away the addicts, the ones who need help the most. I'll happily put it directly in their hands over giving it to a church with an ulterior motive to push their religious views onto the most vulnerable class of people, thanks.
Offering food is fine, if they are hungry and they want it. But if they decline food when that is not the type of help they need is not some admission of guilt, as it is so often portrayed to be. Often, they're rightly skeptical of food from a stranger. Some will accept it to be polite but throw it out for their own safety. It only takes me and ~9 or so other people offering them that fiver to pay for a night's stay in a cheap motel. Offering supplies if they refuse your food is also great to help them with urban camping, but too many supplies is also a liability where they now need to be concerned about theft. Packing light is just as much a survival tactic.
So yes, let's be real here and help people with what they need not what you think they need. If that's relief from withdrawal for a night, so be it. If it's saving for a motel, even better. But services contingent on passing drug tests is not helping any drug addicts, it's just putting them back onto the street.
Nobody has ever gotten a home from food and supplies, but they sure as hell do with money.
I had a lady come up to me in the grocery store with her child and ask very quietly in very broken spanish/english to help her buy food for her and her daughter - who looked to be about 2. My first reaction that I acted on was to say sorry and walk away. Then it hit how cold and callous that was. Even if she was a scammer, that is not an easy way to make money. So I found her gave her $20 and walked away. A few minutes later I saw her with a cart and some food with a smile on her face.
My opinion is that if I have a bit of money that I can do without there is someone that could do with it I'll let them have it. The money may go to a scammer from time to time and I know in the past it has, but if I can help one genuinely needy person I do what I can, not going to let the shit bags (both scammers and politicians) keep me from trying to help
I been on the bottom rung. So I know that kind of living. And because of that I help when I'm able to.
Honestly for me, it's very hard to trust people who haven't fallen on hard times. People that have never been in trouble, always feels like they look down on you, and don't understand the system that keeps people down.
Ive spent a night or two in jail, I've been broke as fuck, I've had to go without. Until you've experienced it, it's hard to fully understand.
And it's impossible to explain to people who haven't lived it.
I try to give a bit of money, reasons like they are going to spend it on *bad thing* aren't for me to judge or evaluate and people don't become rich from begging on the streets. There is also a bit of a hope that someone will give me a bit of money if situation will reverse once.
There are actually beggar gangs that can be obscenely rich, particularly in China.
Who becomes obscenely rich in these gangs, people that ask for money on the streets? Obviously in big cities with a lot of tourist traffic there bound to be criminal organisarions that try to monetize suffering.
I've seen a guy with a "Money for Weed" sign in Hamburg the other day. He obviously got some money.
I don't think it's necessarily bad to evaluate/judge what they spend it on, but ultimately if that's your reason for not giving ("bad thing") then it's probably just an excuse. I say this to mean I can know they likely will buy liquor and I wish they would buy food instead.
I give homeless people money sometimes knowing they are lying or might not spend it wisely but I reason that they got into that situation through a lot of bad luck so whatever they decide to spend it on is on them. I have a friend who couldn't believe I'd given money to a homeless person who lied (they had a quite unbelievable story that sounded like a huge lie anyhow). I explained to my friend that them lying doesn't mean they don't have a good reason to need money. They're only doing it out of desperation and clearly need money.
This is the closest to my philosophy. I keep a few $1 bills in my car and hand them out to anyone who asks. I'm not interested in judging whether they look like they need it, or what I think they'll spend it on. I just want them to know they're not invisible.
I once saw a guy searching through the trash for "Pfand" Bottles (German recycling system) that are worth 25 cents. He didn't ask me for anything, so I gave him 5€.
PS: I could tell that he was genuinely grateful (or at least a great actor) and I had that gut feeling that he is a good guy.
This shows that you have great empathy.
But what if a person came and ask you explicitly for money, will you give them?
Mostly no, especially in big cities, because I would be broke in 30 minutes. If someone tells me they need it for something reasonable and specific and I believe them, maybe, honestly it depends on my mood as well as I am obviously flawed, just like everyone. Also I live paycheck to paycheck myself.
Edit: Thanks btw.
Searching through the trash means they genuinely need the money, and are willing to work for it. That's worth something.
I won't help every time, but if someone asks and I'm feeling generous, I usually stop and talk for a few mins and hand them $10-20, no strings attached. I'm not the ethics police and if they buy insulin or liquor doesn't matter to me as much as them getting the impression that they aren't invisible and people want to see them prosper. It's too easy to see myself in their situation for me to be an asshole about it. Most of us are only an accident or bad decision away from homelessness and poverty.
Just handing them money? No, I don't. I don't have much myself.
But I do work in a downtown area near a shelter and see a lot of the same people pass by every day. I'll give them cold water and extra food if I have it. Certain others I will let go through my scrap metal for stuff they can sell to recyclers, and occasionally I'll hire someone for the day to help me clean.
I still feel like a dick setting in my air conditioned truck ignoring the person setting outside in 100F+ weather with a "help me" sign.
As someone who's been homeless, I deride the term beggar. Still, It depends, If I have something on me I can part with. A joint, a cigarette sure. Got a fairly annoying allergy that means I often wind up with some food stuff I can't eat. If I have bills they can have cash. Change is kinda worthless here. If someone looks hungry, I'll give them something. But there's so many now in the area, you can't help everyone.
Anyone willing to do that probably needs the cash more than I do. Who am I to say? If I can spare it, I share it. If I can't, I still try to give a little of my time to recognize them as a fellow human being, because I know begging or just being destitute in general feels dehumanizing.
My thinking is that as long as I'm given the choice, I'd rather be scammed out of $20 than fail to help someone who legitimately needs it.
As a short woman who can't run fast, it depends on how safe the situation feels. In general, I keep moving if there's someone coming out and approaching people, because some of those folks can switch from a scam to a purse-snatch/assault in a flash. But I've occasionally tucked a 20 into the cart of a woman sleeping on the sidewalk, and I don't care what they spend it on. I donate monthly to my local food bank as well of course.
Loud street beggars - never. They are usually members (or victims) of criminal organizations. Even if they are forced to do it, giving them anything only makes the business profitable for their bosses.
Poor people you know otherwise. Like for example a homeless person in your neighborhood who doesn't usually ask for anything. Help them if you can, especially with non-monetary support. Food, clothes you don't need, personal hygiene supplies, etc...
Vehemently against it. Far too easy to abuse - there's been criminal gangs that force people to beg. I've even heard of criminal gangs crippling people they traffic to give them visible disabilities to make the begging more effective. Giving money to beggars - even if they're not being trafficked - still makes begging worthwhile and increases the likelihood it will be made into a gang activity. We need government programs that handle it, or give your money to a charity instead, which makes sure the money goes to effective programs that help people in real need.
But what if the poor person who is asking you for money, is unable to access any help or charity?
I know that the easy answer is to not give any money to beggars and to only give it to charities, but that also has its own set of problems.
A lot of them have drug or alcohol problems. I don't want to fund their self destructive behaviour. I'm more than happy to give money to homeless shelters, food banks and other related charities.
I'll throw a few bucks here and there. Bought a guy a six pack once. Fuck it life sucks enough as is when you're homeless, may as well have a drink and forget for a while.
I wouldn't because I'm broke as fuck
My advice to them would be: go shoplift the corporate chain
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Where I live, there are a lot of people who hold signs on the side of the road and the end of off ramps. I'm a funeral director, and I've had to cremate homeless people who got hit doing that. It makes me very anxious to see someone running across traffic to grab a dollar from someone three lanes over.
So that in particular bothers me pretty bad
I’m poor, so I’ll do what I can. Especially if it means ignoring people I’ve seen shoplifting. Because, no, I didn’t.
When I can, I do. Life is difficult enough without having to beg to survive. Don't give a damn what they spend it on. Just want them to have what little comfort it can afford
Occasionally I will say "how much more to get some product" followed immediately by "how much ya got". If they show change in their palm or otherwise engage honestly, I'll usually top them up. Have your beer dude, if your life is so crummy this is what you need to feel OK go ahead. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever give to somebody that claims they are hungry because that is a bald-faced lie.
But generally the way I give is to check on the addicts in the bus shelter during extreme winter nights, bring them hot/cold water, supplies to plug wind holes and otherwise keep it warmer, plus whatever I salvage in my travels. In summer I maintain the community "ice water" zone which is just at the stump of a tree, but now that all the people in the hood know it's there, it's raided continually. I honestly can't keep up as I just have a tiny freezer but it's replenished as often as reasonable for me. The community chips in now as well... they've started to bring lidded takeout cups and plastic bottles and leave them there so I don't have to constantly scout containers.
I should more than I do. It's a good thing to give when you're able.
I never give cash. I've personally had to provide emergency service for ODs that came directly from someone's "last fix".
My GF donates to the food bank at the end of our street when she finds a great deal on an item.