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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

That's nothing, someone hosted an unauthorised Smash Bros tournament and everyone at Nintendo died

[–] deepus@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago

But then theres no one left to sue us right?! Pirate all the (nitendo) things!!!!!

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago

everyone at Nintendo died

Sounds like a net gain for the gaming community.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 90 points 18 hours ago

This is so sad, Andrew Wilson - lay off 400 employees :(

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 66 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

If that upsets you, kids, tell your dad to make a game worth paying money for in 2025, or to make his 1995 game easily accessible at an appropriate price.

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 54 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Best i can do is an ai texture flip and a “remastered” version for 40€

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 10 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I don't mind remasters per se. Diablo 2 Resurrected was absolutely awesome, and they didn't really change that much. Just modernised the graphics and made som some qol adjustments.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

They killed LAN after beta and made it always-online. Still, a better rework than many others.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

i had forgotten about the d2 remake. This reminds me why I never got it.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

I think LAN is still dead but offline single player works fine.

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I’m glad you enjoyed it. They are not for me usually, but it’s neither here nor there

[–] schema@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

D2R is decent, but there is also warcraft 3 reforged, which is an abomination (there is now a startcraft 2 mod that is better than reforged)

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago

Or accessible at all!

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If you and a friend shared the same car, you stole a car from the manufacturer. /s

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But you and your friend wouldn't download a car now would you...

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

certainly not a tesla, lol

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 16 hours ago

Also, keeping and playing your old games you paid for is theft.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 24 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Also it's not like the workers typically get the long tail of profits. Most labor is only paid a salary, and the "owners" get to keep profiting. Workers should be entitled to the profits of their labor.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 14 hours ago

But then what incentive would keep the owners owning everything?

[–] MarauderIIC@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

So kinda like royalties

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

How would you quantify ongoing projects where workers come and go and each of their specific contribution might not be easy to measure? Do they all also assume financial responsibility for any failures or lawsuits?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 hours ago

How would you quantify ongoing projects where workers come and go and each of their specific contribution might not be easy to measure?

Probably some sort of collective ownership, profit sharing, with negotiation and consensus building. Other people more well read than me have spent a lot of time thinking about this. My starting position is that the standard capitalist model of "I pay you $10 to make a widget, and I sell it for $1000 and keep all the profits" is not okay.

Do they all also assume financial responsibility for any failures or lawsuits?

Do the owners assume financial responsibility now? I think that's what LLCs and other corporate structures are for- to shield individuals from liability and responsibility.

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

And probably EA didn't make it, just published it.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 10 points 1 hour ago

*a game my employees made

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 10 points 2 hours ago
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'm bringing home the rain. Theres no supper on the table. The babies crying in the cradle.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I just wanted to see my boy Joseph Kucan in his prime again. I didn't mean to destroy your family!!!!

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You did not mean to, but did you care?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

Given that this EA guy clearly is against the Brotherhood or Nod, I wouldn't care.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

Oh no, I'm gonna copy the folder a million times, I added ('murican) medical debt to someone's net worth!

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Probably next rts game you'll have to pay €0.5 per unit built and shooters you pay €0.2 per bullet. Rpg games will have item shops for real money.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think this is a real problem for indie authors lol.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Why? People who pirate games are likely in one of two camps: they either pirate games to try them out and then purchase ones they like or want to support, or they're people who don't believe in intellectual property and don't see what they're doing as theft.

The former would contribute monetarily to games just like any other fan. The latter was never going to purchase the game anyway.

Frankly, indie developers who try to scapegoat the piracy community as why their games under-performed likely just don't make very good games in the first place. When my projects flop I don't throw a fit about it and start slinging shit at any community that remotely feels right, actually more importantly, no matter how right it feels... no, I just accept that my attempt that go-around was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe it will do better in the future, maybe not. I don't blame the market or the audience for my metrics, tho. I am the one who made the game and I am the one who chose when, how, and where to release it. Nobody else.

Developers and content creators aren't fucking helpless victims and they should stop acting like it when it comes to IP and copyright. They really got white middle-class people so fucking scared of thieves that they invented this whole entire fictitious, conniving spectre to blame all their worries and fears on in the form of some weird imaginary mega-thief that somehow can magically steal ideas themselves and whimsically influence the market... seemingly in whatever manner is rhetorically convenient for whoever is prostrating themselves upon the Cross^TM^ in a given moment, interestingly enough.

I think most developers, who aren't pissbabies, usually like the piracy community because it is free advertising for their media that they otherwise wouldn't get and it doesn't affect sales. Plus most real artists, those who dedicate their lives or significant portions thereof to their works, are probably just happy someone enjoys what they made enough to interact with or consume it. I know I am. I'm not on some weird fucking hate-bender over people choosing to copy/use/plagiarize/steal/whatever my work in a way that I deem wrong or incorrect... because it isn't my fucking business what someone does with something after I make it - and this fictitious notion that the value of your work is somehow tied to who's allowed to interact with art and how is fucking infuriating and immediately contrarian to what I believe is the essential nature of art and the human experience.

Think, do you ever see highly successful games developers and studios bitching endlessly about the "theft" of their works? No. Mojang could give less of a shit if you pirate Minecraft, because they're not huffing copium about the inherent value of their work. And no, Minecraft's token EULA and Mojang's terms of service are not Mojang giving a shit about piracy. Mojang takes a fairly intentionally laissez-faire approach to piracy, and has for the company's entire existence to some sort of degree depending on time and who was in charge. Now, Nintendo gives a shit about piracy: because they're an imminently failing business losing market share one shitty release after another, amongst other cultural differences. We really did a good ol' corporatist number on Japanese society after WWII but I digress.

Guess who's made the most widely played game of all time? Give you a hint, their name certainly doesn't rhyme with tempo.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's a bit long but it does check out.

I used to pirate a lot when I was younger and didn't have the money.

Now Epic Games and Amazon Games take care that I never have to buy games any more because they give them away for free. I only buy games if there's a specific one I really want to play.

For the same reason I don't need to pirate any more either, it's just not worth the risk of catching malware or something, and there's more than enough free games around.

But what I wanted to say is the alternative to piracy is playing free games, not paying for a game.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Thank you for your sincere opinion. In most cases, yes, you are right, but sometimes, let's say, in your own country you can still sell yourself somehow, but in a foreign country, they won't pay you a penny, they'll just pirate it. I'm talking about special and prohibited games that you can't always upload to Steam. Some authors are really offended because they are under a lot of pressure, but it depends on the audience of the game.

You could say that it's not all that simple here and I don't really want to sort out this whole mess because it doesn't interest me, you understand, I'm just some random guy who expressed his opinion and I know that it may not be accurate.