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I mean... technically the oil could also be used for plastic in which case it wouldn't be burned.
Ignore that plastic may or may not be worse for the environment please.
Also, a lot of burning stuff happens along the way during plastic manufacturing
Ackshoolly, only a small fraction (less than 10%) of oil extracted is made into plastic. One of the things lately is that they instead use ethane, an otherwise-useless byproduct of fracking, to make plastic. Unlike natural gas, ethane is heavier than air and since it's used to make plastic it can't have an odoriferous compound added for safety. So if an ethane pipeline leaks, the gas collects in low-lying areas undetected until a stray ignition source makes it explode. I happen to know this because I live a few miles from one of these pipelines and I cross it four times a day. Yay progress!
Why did you change the subject plastics when the discussion is about climate issues? why should we ignore it? How about the ocean life destroying trash gyres? Sea- and bird-life choking plastics? Microplastics with as-yet not fully understood fallout? Chemicals from plastics and their manufacture leaking into water supplies?
Plastics are a generally a petroleum product, so regardless of whether the product from those drilling rigs makes plastic bottle tops or bunker fuel, it’s killing or hurting something for our convenience.
why should we ignore it?
because then my whole argument actually makes it worse.
How about the ocean life destroying trash gyres? Sea- and bird-life choking plastics? Microplastics with as-yet not fully understood fallout? Chemicals from plastics and their manufacture leaking into water supplies?
Plastics are a generally a petroleum product, so regardless of whether the product from those drilling rigs makes plastic bottle tops or bunker fuel, it’s killing or hurting something for our convenience.
Summed it up perfectly.
Still not putting a /j on my comment though.
FWIW a lot of modern plastic is made from ethane, an otherwise-useless byproduct of fracking. This, of course, does not improve our situation.
I was gonna say cruise ships and coal power plants and airplanes
If republicans were smart or had a working soul, they wouldn't be republicans.
A lot of them are quite intelligent and had a soul once. They just pledged it to evil.
Republicans are not humans.
they are working pieces of a larger institution, if they had human emotions and thought, they wouldn't be there.
Exactly what I thought when I read the headline. MTG is actually against man made climate change.
*edit: I'm being sarcastic. She sucks and is making things worse.
No, she's against intentional, purposeful alteration of weather and climate.
Things like geo-engineering or regulation designed to reduce the impact of climate change fall under that category, while pollution for profit is just unintentional collateral damage that wouldn't be impacted by her legislation.
Totally, I agree with you. She's a blight on our planet.
Just wanted to say I was being sarcastic.
Does that mean it'll be a federal felony to drive a vehicle with a combustion engine? Wow she's going to help us reach net-zero!
She's specifically against trying to fix man-made climate change. Humanity is in a car careening towards a cliff, and her bill is a brick on the gas pedal.
Republicans are upset about these extreme weather events. They have been fed propaganda through decades of misinformation from their trusted sources. They can't blame the actual cause because they have been programmed to deny the cause.
So now they have to invent reasons why this is happening. Space lasers, forest mismanagement, liberal conspiracy, etc. The sad truth is they have been irreversibly brain damaged by corporate lies.
All for profit. Fucking with the psychological well being of hundreds of millions of people. This shit is worse than war crimes.
Someone needs to spread a rumor that an additive in gas is turning frogs gay
That's not going to help. Atrazine is the pollutant that's allegedly "turning the freaking frogs gay" and instead of pushing for, you know, not polluting our drinking water, it was spun as a thing liberals were doing for the gay agenda rather than big ag not giving a shit about anything other than profits.
I hate cars and trucks so much.
Wait….if MTG wants to ban geoengineering, could we use that to back door environmental protection?
No, the bill is specifically worded such that carbon capture would be illegal since it's intention is to change the weather, but pollution is fine since it's unintentional.
That's why they want to ban it, so we can't put up sumshades or sun screens to delay climate change effects and reflect UV. Eg a few years ago they wanted to spray sulfur in the atmosphere, because it would block the sun somewhat. I'm opposed to this or any shield like that (which is not easy to remove or clean) and think we should build a giant flat metal blanket in space to stay locked between earth and the sun to deflect whatever percentage of rays we can get it to deflect. And then start mass carbon squestering programs. But we needed to start all that a decade ago.
What if we write a bill and the wording is so bad, it accidentally bans fracking/oil rigs or any kind of greenhouse gas emissions?
Then the people in charge will demonstrate once again how much they care about words.
I was watching a video of a Trump supporter dressed head to toe in the American flag being interviewed at a rally. The guy asked something and, while trying to answer, she asks "do you really want to go there?" and casually drops that disasters were being caused by the government.
"The government... controls the weather?" he asks. It took a second but you could see the gears ticking. The penny finally drops, and she pivots to a vague "it's the elite [few]". Like ok I guess we're making shit up as we go.
What a classy lady.
I'm betting that that stupid bill is a sneaky way to ban any effort/policy to mitigate climate change.
IE, a law design to lower carbon emissions will be considered as trying to modify the weather.
lol too good
How can we convince them that man made climate change is part of the conspiracy
Is that highway... real?
Might be the Katy Freeway, which is the widest road in the country at 10 lanes wide
This photo isn’t. But you do have highways like the Katy Freeway mentioned below, or Ontario’s highway 401, which actually do exist
the Katy Freeway
JFC, that thing is nightmare fuel.
You know, I think it just needs one more lane. That will fix all the traffic problems
I mean, we do both
The first one is supposed to be chemtrails, or other weather manipulation from conspiracy theories.
The real chemtrails was the emissions from aviation along the way
This is something I can actually speak on, as I've done research projects specifically on detecting solar radiation management (SRM) deployments. First of all, it's contrails you (MTG and these idiots, not "you") dumbfucks, as in "condensation trails". It's just when hot exhaust causes moisture in the air to condense to create a cloud-like thing.
Secondly, cloud seeding has been used for many years already on small scales to help with precipitation management. It's not a problem at these scales.
Thirdly, injecting aerosols into the stratosphere (SAI) to reflect sun energy back into space is a big research field but it's generally concluded that it shouldn't be done because A) it's extremely expensive to make any actual affects at a useful scale, and B) if it was used, it could potentially cause a termination shock (you can look it up).
Fourthly, marine cloud brightening is a useful way to get some of the effects of SAI without the huge risks or high costs.
In conclusion, fuck MTG and MAGA, they're dumb, greedy, and hateful, and need to face justice.
in ra2 game, the allies have the weather machine, which jams radar and causing a lightning storms to destroy buildings. sg1 had encountered a tech thats basically an astrolabe, that controls the weather.
more like this:
There's no doubt the smoke from the skinny smoke stacks is bad, but those big round ones are cooling towers and what's coming out of them is water vapour. Ideally this would be decommissioned but I would hope they at least have carbon scrubbers retrofitted to the smoke stacks.
yeah obviously the cooling towers arent the problem here. Its the giant coal powered plants producing more co2 than everything in this entire thread.