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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

The deinstitutionalization and movement to prison was something that began long before Reagan. Really goes back to the end of ww2 and Kennedy. though reagan definitely accelerated it by a great deal by decreasing budgets substantially and increasing incarceration rates significantly

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Reagan was a monster though. What a great day it was when he died

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 6 days ago

For more information, lookup the impact of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest on mental health services in the United States.

[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Thanks for that info

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 73 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A lot of younger people simply don't know that the age we all consider the golden age of middle class America (40s-70s) was so because we TAXED THE FUCK OUT OF THE WEALTHY. As we should.

If we do not return to doing so, our quality of life is going to continue to decline indefinitely.

TAX. THE. FUCKING. RICH.

DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT DOESN'T RUN ON TAXING THE RICH.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Not even the Democrats could do this with a Democrat controlled Congress and presidency

[–] tfm@europe.pub 9 points 5 days ago

~~could~~ want

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 5 days ago

Conversely, I think most of the county would rabidly support anyone who ran on that platform... Even most Trump voters

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 61 points 6 days ago (5 children)

He was terrible, and perhaps worse: he was so popular. He got two terms, then his vice president got a term. So popular it seemed to be (to me) that he was the reason we ultimately got stuck with the "Third Way" democrats, which is when the working class was finally completely abandoned.

He really screwed us all

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

His administration was when the republicans really started running with the idea of fucking with people's minds. "Morning in America" turned a shitload of former Democrats into republican voters who voted themselves and their children into a shithole they'd never get out of.

See also; "The Southern Strategy"

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, maybe. I mean, the republicans at this time did start to resonate with the public, but I think it had more to do with the times and with Reagan himself.

Reagan was much more likeable than the likes of Goldwater, Buckley, or any other figure at the time. And he was attractive to the evangelicals, which became a whole new arm (with issues) of the party.

Also, of course, the economy of the 70s was just right for a party that could lean into hate, fear, & greed.

Reagan, though. He could sell all of it in a way that few others would have been able to pull off. I remember wondering at the time how he could draw so many in. People just liked him, horrible as he was.

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[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And he sold those missiles because Congress had made it illegal to fund rape/murder squads in Nicaragua.

The money was off the books and then sent to the death squads killing innocent farmers.

Unlike Nixon, Congress was not willing to impeach, so Regan denied everything and only a few staffers were prosecuted.

Bush Sr pardoned them.

Republicans: not even once.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They also were smuggling Crack into the states to fund the contras (who are terrorists)

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)
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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Almost every problem america has to date, you could blame on Reagan.

And you would be right far, far, faaaar more often than you'd be wrong.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“National debt” obscures the practical consequence. National debt is just money that has been added into the economy but not taxed back out.

It’s not necessarily bad to ramp up spending, if that new money has somewhere healthy to go. (Mega projects like Medicare For All or the Green New Deal would be prime candidates.)

So where did it go?

Well, take a look at Reagan’s reign from 81-89…

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There’s the problem.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

...and this chart stops at 2012

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

precisely. the distribution of wealth is a more important indicator of economic health than simply looking at the national debt or total tax revenues. imo we need to increase taxes on the ultra rich, not because we need to reduce the deficit but because taxes prevent the obscene accumulation of wealth (and the resulting regulatory capture epitomized by modern American oligarchy).

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[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Did anyone else know that they recently made a film about this fucking filth?

They were obviously trying way too hard to control the narrative of this fucking piece of shit, but to also spark some kind of patriotism in all those old fucks who fell for reagan's bullshit lies, and now trump's bullshit lies.

I almost wanted to go and rip their little signs they had for this movie straight out of the ground. Ugh. Disgusting.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dennis Quaid is a piece of shit.

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[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 37 points 6 days ago

Don't forget his campaign for governor led to the massive student loan issues we have today. College was just starting to be accessible to everyone that wasn't a white man, and they just couldn't have that!

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

The 13th amendment created the legal groundwork for transforming a free people into a nation of de facto chattel slaves. Reagan accelerated this process massively.

Mental patients 🖐️ (⁠눈⁠‸⁠눈⁠)

"Prisoners with jobs" 👈 (⁠♡⁠ω⁠♡⁠ ⁠)

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 32 points 6 days ago (3 children)

In (very) broad strokes, the US basic current modern collapse timeline is like: Nixon --> Regan --> Fairness Doctrine --> Glass-Steagall --> Patriot Act --> bank bailout --> tea party to maga --> current fubar lyfe

goddamn fucking reagan

[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

Need to squeeze Citizens United in there

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 days ago

I was going to post something similar but yeah. Almost every Behind the Bastards episode that touches these topics, there is a straight line from Nixon to Trump.

The TL;DR: Republicans hated how people generally agreed with the facts surrounding Nixon and decided to do something about it. Instead of reporting conservative-slanted opinions, they instead wanted to get rid of facts all together.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago

You don't have citizens united in there, which I would argue is one of the largest modern causes of our current situation. Had citizens united not been vomited into the world, we might have been in a slightly better place without a decade and a half of practically unrestricted corporate propaganda shoved down our throats. I'd bet that trump wouldn't have won in 2016 if it wasn't for the unlimited funding he got (along with billions in free advertising from the "news" media).

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump is just the Result of Reagan's transformation of American politics and culture to greed first and only.

Trump is a vulture picking this nation's corpse clean. Ronald Reagan and Jack Welch killed us half a century ago.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

On one hand, it does make sense to lower taxes if taxes are notably harming the economy or harming economic recovery, and under Reagan we DID have a long economic boom. Dropping taxes on the rich by 40% was likely unnecessary, as even ~20% would have been enough for a stable recovery.

The flip side to that is that it installed in Republicans the idea that taxes go down == economy go up, which is nowhere near the truth (as shown by the Kansas Experiment ) and is one of (IMO) the three major shifts in the GOP that has turned them into the absolute shitters they are today. The others FWIW are Gingrich's Contract with America, or more particularly the idea he presented to the GOP that they can never let the DNC have a win even if it would benefit the GOP, and the Southern Strategy.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Trickle down economics, contract with America, and the southern strategy. The new unholy trinity.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

I was here but barely too young to vote at the time (not that it mattered since he had so many people enthralled like trump has done). No, I will never forget how he (along with some others like Newt Gingrich) ruined everything, so just as I was getting started in adult life, things were already starting to go to hell and it hasn't stopped since.

Reagan really was the beginning of the end for this country, and though a couple times it looked like we might, we were never able to turn things around. And now here we are, experiencing the culmination of his work of turning America into a kleptocratic oligarchy.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 23 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The homelessness crisis is not about mental health, it is about housing affordability. This also plays into societal biases against the mentally ill.

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Yes, however there are many people who are homeless because they are unable to "properly" function in society due to untreated mental illnesses, part of Reagan's budget cuts reduced public health funding, shuttering public mental health facilities. Granted, some had horrendous conditions which has a lasting reputation for "Insane asylums".

The current crisis is about affordability. That hasn't traditionally been true.

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[–] funbun@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Reganomics. Trickle down economics. Only thing that trickles is piss and shit.

formerly known as the horse-and-sparrow theory: the idea that feeding a horse a huge amount of oats results in some of the feed passing through for lucky sparrows to eat.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I will never know what it is like to be in pre-Reagan America and for that alone that man should burn in hell waiting for heaven to trickle down.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And don't forget ending the fairness doctrine, one of the contributions to the polarization of US politics.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

Let's not forget the treason of letting Oliver North! Besides everything else, North's Contras were drug smugglers who brought in so much cocaine that coke went from being a luxury to a street drug in just a few months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_epidemic_in_the_United_States

Youtube video https://youtu.be/Mb1GfP5Rwys

Not to glorify mental institutions, which are often vehicles of state oppression and state violence.

Having both been homeless and in a psych ward, I preferred being homeless (granted I could sleep in public transit).

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

To quote the poet Killer Mike: " I'm glad Reagans dead"

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

TBH, the mental hospitals were a mess and rife with abuse.

But rather that invest money into improving them, he got rid of them by branding it “de-institutionalization”. Made it sound like he was freeing people.

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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

and we love (/s) what he did to sunny CA slashing property taxes by slashing the public education budget helping lead to a continuing decline in our education system.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I'm willing to bet that trump beats those numbers

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Leeja Miller on Youtube has a great video about how shitty Reagan was. She also has REAGAN RUINED EVERYTHING t-shirts! https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4

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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago

Republican ~~presidents~~ politicians are a pox on this country.

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