Idk call a local news station. They will be your free lawyer.
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At this point I'm fairly confident that they could find irrevocable proof that the 2024 election was a sham, and nothing would come of it.
I believe that to be correct.
Your assesment, not the result.
Doesn't mean that they shouldn't try though.
Doesn't the Congress and Election College have final say? The rest of it could be a sham, but what they say goes.
You mean those institutions which are controlled by the same organised crime family who did the election fraud?
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I don't know if I agree with that. I guess it depends on the Local News station. And if they're actually local.
Election Truth Alliance is already investigating claims in some areas, maybe they can help or maybe your evidence can help them.
All votes really need a numbered receipt, like a tracking number, that shows what that number voted for, and then posted publicly. This way if you think you're vote was changed you can go and look online to see if it matches how you voted...but doubt this would ever be put in place.
I don't think that's a good idea at all. Leaks happen all the time and everyone knows that a lot of those machines are compromised. If republicans know exactly who voted for who, that could be an Alligator Auschwitz trip for certain people.
The problem is, that it's either a system with checks or you get a system with no checks and potential fraud.
This would still be anonymous, you vote, it prints out a ticket number just for you not assigned to anyone but the votes that have been cast. You walk out of the voting booth with a ticket that has a number assigned to the votes nothing more.
I was thinking if it's just a ballot that has a number but it's not attached to your name. I.e. if the person handing out the ballots gives you a random one and you're the only one who knows your own number. I've never used electric voting machines but maybe a randomly generated number that you can know but nobody else would know?
The problem with any kind of system like this is that if you can verify your own vote, then someone else could always force you to show them that verification.
That's illegal in most places. Votes are anonymous specifically on purpose. Numerous people have been threatened to vote certain ways in the past all over the world. If there is no record of you specifically voting a specific choice, you can't be forced to vote a specific way. And you can't be targeted after the fact for that vote.
Also because it's an effective way to prove you voted a certain way to a vote buyer.
What's stopping this now? Vote buying would happen regardless of a system.
when votes are anonymous you can just not give a fuck about what they paid you to vote, you can take as many bribes as you want and vote for yourself regardless, thus people don't really bother buying votes.
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You can pay someone to vote a specific way, but with the current system, there doesn't exist a way for you to verify that they actually voted how you told them to.
That is a bad idea because now someone else can also check how you've voted. I.e. you can be coerced or threatened to vote a certain way. The current system is anonymous. You can vote X but say you voted Y and nobody can prove different.
The idea of it being numbered is that you are given your number when you vote to check against later, but nobody else is given that number so they can't tie the vote to you.
Often times the people this would hurt most would be the spouses of abusive individuals. They could force the receipt, and would be able to confirm their victim voted the way they were told.
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But you can be coerced to give up that number. People can buy your vote and you can give them your number as proof. That's a huuuuge problem. You should not be able to prove (to someone else) how you voted. Ever.
What you need is some kind of systeem that allows you to verify your vote, but which is useless to someone else. It's probably possible. But your idea isn't it.
Transparent urn and public counting ?
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This is the exact use-case for a blockchain, a public immutable ledger where you can validate your vote, but nobody can tie it back to you.
the point of anonymous voting is coercion. if you can validate your vote outside of a safe polling place then someone else is able to validate how you voted and force you to vote a particular way
voting systems you need to be able to validate that your vote is submitted as you wanted (imo only paper based voting allows for this), and then that the system for counting the votes is inviolable (that’s where scrutineers come in)… again, imo that’s not something you can do electronically - or at least practically
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You're forgetting about the traffic analysis and key distribution problems
No different than how it's recorded today. We can improve from there but it's not worse with the upside of a public ledger.
You can do much better than a ledger with a commitment scheme and transparency log.
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Under your system republicans would just send everyone who voted democrat to death camps.
At least with a secret ballot they can only do that to everyone they think voted against them.
Under this system, the votes are tied to a randomized number, not to a person. They wouldn't know.
I don't think that's how a technofascist surveillance state works. They would know.
If you're at that point then what makes you think they're not using facial surveillance to watch how you vote? And worse is mail in ballots.
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I believe the traditional way to bring attention to suspected voting fraud is to shit your pants in front of a Four Seasons Landscaping
You could reach out to the wronged party as even local parties have lawyers...
I think you'd be best served by doing all due diligence and proving this to be the case before approaching media. A lawyer would be if you were harmed, so if your vote was not counted, then you were harmed. There also needs to be a known plaintiff, though, so you need a lot of data for that step. You can't simply use conjecture for legal proceedings, which is why Trump lost or rendered null every case he filed in 2020.
A lawyer would be if you were harmed
A lawyer can also help guide you through the legal and procedural issues. Lawyers are not for just if you are harmed.
It would probably also help you a bit more with legitimacy, if you can get a known lawyer helping you... Cause any crank can make a claim, but a known lawyer wont risk their reputation/license/job on happenstance with little evidence.
So lets say I got like 500 signatures that say they voted Harris? But our district only showed 50?
I think your best bet would be to go to the local Democratic party. You don't have the cash to contest this; they do. They also (depending on the local laws) probably have local officials on the local elections boards, so they are in the best position to evaluate your claims. There may be a simple explanation....
Pointless.
You'd need 500 signed affidavits to be taken seriously. Anyone can just forge a signature. Affidavits are signed under oath, under penalty of law.
Yeah Rudy and Sidney Dipshit got hundreds of “signed affidavits” during the 2020 trump steal attempt. They went to prison for a looooong time for . . oh wait yeah sweet fuckall happened to them.
Is there not the local election commission? How did you find it? If there's an individual, there's likely a way to report them.
It’s not that I don’t believe you, but extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. Is what you found that extraordinary?
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