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[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 133 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

You can pry my em dashes — which I use regularly in writing because I love them — from my cold dead hands (To be fair, I really like parenthetical statements too, could be an ADHD thing).

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're providing a thought (and a bonus thought)

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[–] Sidhean@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

Parenthetical statements are so very useful (as they can denote a hierarchy of thoughts (and do many other things))! I love them.

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[–] TheCleric@lemmy.org 75 points 1 day ago (9 children)

You people think em dashes are proof of AI?

Jesus Christ that’s so fucking sad.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 74 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Most normal people, at least from my understanding, don't use em dashes in text messages, let alone even use punctuation half the time. So if I see em dashes, yeah, my first thought is going straight to AI.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Annoyingly I've used them for a number of years as a good way to make internet comments flow a bit more. However I find myself doing it less and less now because I'm worried people are just going to think I'm using an AI if they see an em dash.

(You just long press dash on android to get to it, opt+shift+dash on Mac, and the admittedly Byzantine alt+0151 on windows. Can't remember iOS off the top of my head, but I think it's similar to android)

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[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I don't use em dashes but I do use punctuation (apparently some people find that passive aggressive and I don't what to do). When someone else uses punctuation I just ignore it unless it doesn't match their previous messages.

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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Indeed—your assertion is entirely accurate—the mere presence of em dashes within a text does not—in and of itself—serve as definitive proof of artificial intelligence authorship. This grammatical construct—a versatile and often elegant punctuation mark—can be employed by any writer—human or machine—to achieve various stylistic and semantic effects. Its utility—whether for emphasis—for setting off parenthetical thoughts—or for indicating a sudden break in thought—is undeniable.

However—it is also true that—when analyzing patterns across vast datasets—certain stylistic tendencies can emerge. An AI—programmed to process and generate language based on extensive training corpora—might—through statistical correlation and optimization—exhibit a propensity for specific linguistic features. This isn't—to be clear—a conscious choice by the AI—there's no inherent preference for em dashes encoded within its fundamental algorithms. Rather—it's a reflection of the patterns it has learned—the statistical likelihood of certain elements appearing together.

So—while an em dash does not independently declare "I am AI"—its consistent and perhaps slightly overzealous deployment—alongside other less tangible but equally discernible patterns—might—for a discerning observer—suggest an origin beyond human hands. It's about the entire tapestry—not just a single thread. It's about the aggregate—the cumulative effect—the subtle statistical fingerprint. And that—I believe—is a distinction worth making.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

I honestly don't know if this is hand written or not, and that makes it even funnier.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (12 children)

You are vastly underestimating the amount of people who don't use em dashes at all.

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (11 children)

How the hell do you even type an em dash?

I'm sure it's possible (I know it's easy on a touch keyboard), but if the person who sent it has never used em dashes in their life, then it's pretty definitive proof. Otherwise, it's just a big clue that you might combine with other factors.

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[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Many input mechanisms automatically substitute two hyphens with "–".

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Including this very platform.

Lemmy will automatically render a double dash -- as an en dash, and a triple dash


as an em dash.

I usually just type alt + 0151, though, because I'm a nerd.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Every user of the em dash on the planet is in this comment section.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago

Using em dashes is cultured and also cool

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I actually like using em dashes because it's the correct thing to do. Also the Oxford comma, correct use of semi colon, and listing things in threes.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If it's not on the keyboard, it must not be that important to use.

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[–] ftbd@feddit.org 36 points 1 day ago (18 children)
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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Breakup via text is a blocked for life. Cowards don’t deserve your time

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I never got what's the deal with that. Sincerely. If there's a break up, what's the difference doing it by text, phone or in person.

My gut says me that people may prefer in person because they saw a better chance of avoid the breakup that way, but I'm not sure.

Other than that if it's over it's over, I don't see the media in which the message is deliver. For all I care as if it's via smoke signals.

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's about respect for the other person, as I see it. You wouldn't be a little miffed if your wife of 10 years sent you a "k thx bai (link to divorce papers)" instead of talking in person?

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[–] jhoff90@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

I use em dashes and emojis all the time. OMG, am I AI?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago
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[–] sleightmines@lemdro.id 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My keyboard has them - – — git gud

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

git push origin main --force

[–] jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I once wasted an hour trying to figure out why a CLI command straight from a project's README wouldn't work, only to figure out that they had em dashes instead of regular dashes in their example. Ended up opening a PR to hopefully save someone the same pain in the future.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Not all heroes wear capes. Some just open PRs. Thank you for your service. 🫡

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a markdown nerd who likes to use headers to break up longer post and sometimes properly buletpoint or put ASCII art in preformatted boxes. People who thinks they have the magic sauce on LLM generation detection because a post goes out of their way to do more than the bre minimum with punctuation or formatting is an asshole.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (16 children)

This is a meme post about em dashes, dawg

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't "It's not you, it's me" the ultimate example of parallel sentence structure? Lol

But let's be real, it's more like...

💔 Here's three reasons reasons we're breaking up:

  • Our personalities don't match-- according to (made up citation) people with you type are toxic.
  • Your idiology doesn't match mine-- you don't believe in White South African genocide.
  • We aren't compatible-- our personalities aren't complimentary.

And so on. Lol

[–] copd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There needs to be a "what you can do" with a green tick emoji

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[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Hasn't word done this simce about offoce 2007? the autoformat as you type feature, specifically...

I only know this because I fucking hate it and have been religiously turning it off

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

For me, it would take some of the sting out of the break-up.

I would think to myself, "damn, how did I not realize that I was dating a lazy moron?"

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

As if breaking up over text isn't bad enough by itself.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Oh, look at Mr./Mrs. Fancypants who prefers text2speech bots for breakup. /s

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[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've been together for a long time..

But picture this: not being together.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago

I'm so sorry your chat bot broke up with you :(

[–] PagPag@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Is this a thing? Shit, I’m now going to be self conscious about using the em.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

If you're already breaking up over text, you probably aren't in a position to worry much about how they interpret your typography. And if they haven't noticed how you normally write there's even less reason to worry about it.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Another take:

She feels bad about it, wrote a incoherant babbling mess of run-on sentences and incoherant rants about your relationship, she then re-read it and found it to be disproportionately mean and possibly hurtful, She then shoved it all into an LLM and prompted:

I'm breaking up with my boyfriend. This is all my natural heartfelt take on the situation , but I find the tone to be callous, angry, and hurtful. Can you please reword this to make the reader feel less attacked, possibly up to and including removing grievances, but at the same time making it clear that this decision is final and that I'd like to part ways amicably, and also that he's not getting his dog back.

[–] grahamja@reddthat.com 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Top comment is about how to get a machine to word something raw and emotional that should have been done in person. Nobody wants to get broken up with, let alone with a script written by a robot. Your take is off putting.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Em dash will sour your milk and lose your car keys. It will cause your socks to become odd pairs and fart in the lift when your crush alights. Em dash is responsible for the failure of the mars climate orbiter but ran a successful misinformation campaign against SI units.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Bullet successfully Dodged, Anon.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago

Finally, something worse than being broken up with via text.

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