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The fediverse used to feel pretty anti-ai, but over the past month or two I've noticed a LOT of generated memes and images, and they tend to have positive votes.

Has there been a sudden culture shift here? Or is there a substantial percentage of people just unable to tell the difference anymore?

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 120 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)
  1. There's a whole instance of pro-AI users; many are toxic AF about it.

  2. The average person is a moron

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (18 children)
[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's the one I use (dbzer0). I'm pretty sure it's explicitly pro-AI generated content.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, I wouldn't have guessed db0, interesting. I'd kinda considered exploring db0 as a future instance but maybe its not such a good fit for me. Thanks for the answer!

[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago

What I'll say is that I really don't mind it. Personally, I'm not a big fan of AI art at all, and I don't really use generative AI much in any capacity. I also don't see generative AI on my feed... Basically ever? I guess because I don't really browse Local.

db0 is anarchist, and that does come with some lenience that some people might find to be a little off-putting, but the AI part of it is pretty much irrelevant, unless you're seeking it out - from my experience, at least, and based on how I use Lemmy.

Not that I mean to shill for db0 tho lol use whatever instance you feel like fits you best!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

They claim they are not cool with generative AI and yet, that's 90℅ of anything to do with AI posted to/by the instance.

[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 15 hours ago

They claim they are not cool with generative AI

Are you sure about that? The instance description explicitly endorses generative AI. I think you might've misread.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

That is genuinely really interesting, I didn't expect it to be db0. Thanks!

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[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 6 points 13 hours ago

Everyone is on the moron bell curve. Most people are morons all the time. Some people are only morons occasionally.

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Haven't seen a difference but I also block / downvote everybody / community that posts ai slob so ...

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see it, which is horrific considering that others do. can you show a few examples that you think is AI slop?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Its usually deleted by mods fairly quickly because its often being posted into comms that specifically ban it. I saw it in politics comms, shitposts, 196 and more

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

and how unambiguous is it that those are AI generated content? is it like blurry colors on images, 6 fingers and 3 hands, or what do you recognize on them?

I think I can identify generated images, but text... well I can't even decide. Probably I just can't so far, because I don't remember any posts or comments that were suspicious

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 23 points 16 hours ago

O don't give a shit and 100% skip useless posts clearly created using AI.

But interesting posts, I do read them even if made with AI.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

As long as it's intentionally made by a human and the end result is high quality, I personally don't really care what AI or other tools they did or didn't use to create that result

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

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I made this. Do you care now? Are you offended and outraged?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Lol, that's great. I don't know why you think I'd be outraged though

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[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it made of cheese??

[–] riskable@programming.dev 9 points 15 hours ago

Because they probably just took the first image that was generated without even checking it. For today's generative image AI you usually want to generate great big batches then pick the best ones.

Then if you're looking for high quality in your meme you'll also use inpainting and pull the result into Krita or the GIMP to make further improvements (e.g. add text with a proper outline/drop shadow). Then when you're done you'll use AI to upscale the image to a great big size so that it'll look nice when you print it out and hang it on the wall in your cubicle or the stick it to the office fridge or some filing cabinet 😁

[–] pleasestopasking@reddthat.com 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like the problem with AI generated content is it's so easy for anyone to generate stuff, so there can be a huge amount created with little effort. There is high quality AI-generated content, but whew there's a lot that's total slop.

I don't know what the best response is, though. Requiring disclosure of AI-generated comment doesn't seem like it would help because that's going to be mostly honor system. User-flagged could be used to brigade/suppress posts. Really it's probably just a matter of blocking users and communities where you see consistent slop.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah I agree. The issue is that image generation tends to result in maximally bland outputs, and the people who post it tend to put minimal effort in.

I'm not categorically anti-ai, but I feel like I am in practice.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago

The internet is steadily becoming Facebook. Full of idiots being force fed AI slop. Alarmingly confident in their wrongness about almost everything.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I think I have most AI stuff I encountered blocked, and I assume so do other anti AI people, so there's probably just not enough people downvoting/commenting on AI since they don't get it on their feed

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Probably this.

I blocked any and all AI shit I came across. Then I read that they cried about getting downvoted. So I unblocked them, distributed downvotes on their crap like candy and blocked them again. Got a good chuckle out of that.

That was my last interaction with them. It might sound weird, but I actually have better things to do than continue downvoting stuff that literally isn’t art and their posters aren’t artists. That last part has been written solely to trigger these non-artists.

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[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 15 points 16 hours ago

They are flooding the zone, there are countless pro-AI generated content instances. It's like playing whack-a-mole, I often downvote obvious and human-altered slop (it's all slop to me). Unfortunately, there are going to be images that have positive votes despite the general dislike of said AI-slop, especially because I tend to block those slop instances these days. Naturally, most of it is objectifying women (something I don't want to see anyway) so those will naturally get a lot of votes because people weren't thinking with the right head.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 14 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Lemmy is a mix between technology geeks and leftists, and many of us are both. The geek tend to be at least somehow interested in gen "AI" and often know the technical words behind it (if not what they mean). The leftists are more worried by the socio economic impact of AI

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

The issue with the leftists as youve described them is that AI IS happening. There will be no stopping it, no containing it. Its already reshaping our world. And by downplaying its future potential(ai will never be able to identify objects, oops it can now. AI will never be able to make art, whoops it can now. AI will never be able to replace a human in every industry....) you are actively stiffling discussion on how to manage those effects. Anyone who has been seriously following AIs progression over the last ten years can see the patterns on the wall. The time of human workers is over. The only question is whether were going to use AI for the benefit of everyone, or for the benefit of the elite. And by convincing consumers they shouldnt use, even though you cant convince the elite not to, you are only pushing the dial further in the wrong direction.

RIGHT NOW we need to embrace AI. Humans have already shown that we are either incapable or unwilling to run a functional society. Putting something else in charge to make the decisions humans cant or wont is the only possible future we have. Ofc Im not asking to out an llm in charge of the world. But I am asking that people actually do something about their world leaders and start getting ubi implemented today. Because soon enough we will have an AI capable of making those decisions. And make them it will. And thats either a good thing under the post scarcity society weve built, or people rolled over and ignored the problem until they decided they dont need us anymore and get rid of us.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago

As someone who is both, would definitely say I'm interested in generative ML. (I was an early adopter of locally run diffusion models and LLMs. I kinda ended up deeply disappointed by the tech in a lot of ways, but that's a different discussion.)

But personally for me the issue is that I really don't care to see posts that someone didn't care enough to make themself, or read something that someone didn't care to write. And it's always super bland and uninteresting.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I just haven’t noticed really. The reality is that memes, even ones that were made by hand with a lot of effort, are disposable content. Most of them will get looked at for like 10 seconds tops before you either move on or maybe check out the comments. Nobody who isn’t obsessed with finding the AI slop is going to notice the difference between an AI meme and just a shitty photoshop job.

That’s not to say I’m not concerned by the effects of that. Lower effort needed means more low effort stuff, but it’s not really something I’ve clocked as being particularly out of the ordinary.

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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If people would stop talking about AI all day then it probably wouldn't be used as much as it is every day.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

No lie. If anything, this site reminds me that ChatGPT might handle a task for me.

[–] CaptManiac@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Same with Reddit. In fact I'd just decided to delete the Reddit app and just hang out here, because the AI slop has become intolerable. But really I'm seeing it everywhere. Google News used to be interesting and now again AI slop. Is this the end of human-based online articles and interactions?

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

"slop" is being thrown around just like "socialist" and "gay". Save it for actual AI slop. Just because something is made by AI doesn't make it automatically "slop" 🙄

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There's always been plenty of human-made content that is slop. AI is just another tool to make easy content. Trying to categorize everything done with AI as slop is lazy and shifting blame, ignoring the difficulty in both moderating large volume as well as the lack of a definition of what is and isn't "good". Which really ends up coming back to the individual, who has means to shut out places that are regularly a problem to them.

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[–] moonlight@fedia.io 9 points 15 hours ago

I'm referring to stuff that I consider low quality. I don't mind if something is generated, as long as it is labeled as such and is interesting or valuable in some way.

[–] hisao@ani.social 8 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

How would you use that term? Would you call "slop" something that was just mindlessly generated using AI in a single prompt and non-"slop" something that uses AI in more sophisticated/deliberate ways? What is the threshold of something being "slop" ultimately? Is this just result not looking decent enough or amount of effort combined with amount of knowledge and experience that was used to create that? I'm personally conflicted on this, because sometimes even mindless prompt may give great result, and sometimes a lot of manual effort may give shit result. I guess with "slop" I tend to gravitate towards "amount of effort combined with amount of knowledge and experience that was used to create" and perhaps also the amount of content that particular person produces and speed of its production. So if someone is really good with some tools (not necessarily AI) and figured some overpowered shortcuts that allow to produce results very fast with little effort, it also can be called "slop" just for the rate of production alone.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I somewhat agree. It's overused

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 3 hours ago

A lot of people are some combination of lazy, stupid, ignorant, and/or indifferent.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Personally I block all the meme communities.

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[–] feedtheplants@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

AI sentiment IRL seems to have exploded as well. I think everyone is accepting 'the inevitable'

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