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And of course they had to shoehorn some AI bullshit in it

(why I installed this driver: because i can remap the two extra buttons as copy/paste)

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[–] orionsbelt@midwest.social 187 points 1 day ago (4 children)

maybe this will help, if you wanted to ditch the logi driver:

https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar

Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices that connect wirelessly to a Unifying, Bolt, Lightspeed or Nano receiver as well as many Logitech devices that connect via a USB cable or Bluetooth. Solaar is not a device driver and responds only to special messages from devices that are otherwise ignored by the Linux input system.

[–] OhShitSon@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hope one day theres something similar to this, but for 8bitdo.

I have an 8bitdo keyboard, and in order to map my buttons, I need to boot up a windows 10 hard drive, do my one time edits, save them to the keyboard, and THEN I can turn off the pc, swap back to my ZorinOS hard drive, and THEN I can go about as normal.

And if for some reason somethings wrong, or didn't take, I'd have to repeat the whole process all over again.

All because the keyboard manager doesn't work on linux. But it's not logitech.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Sell the 8bitdo keyboard and buy one instead that is capable of running with QMK or ZMK firmware and is configurable by either VIA or VIAL.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wtf AI in your mouse driver?

Oh yeah, totally not logging your every mouse movement, no sir, not at all!

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s training itself to pass those mouse based “I’m human” checks that some sites use.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago

That’s hilarious. But might actually not be a joke.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 73 points 22 hours ago

The driver for your mouse occupies a few kilobytes. The shitty app and AI garbage bloatware occupies the rest.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Use the offline installer, which is for offline and airgapped machines. It turns off the AI prompt builder as well as all the telemetry shite:

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/11570501236119-Logitech-Options-offline-installer

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 50 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

AI prompt builder? What? It's a fucking mouse??????

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It is repulsive to me in its entirety but apparently the vibe coders dig it.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

But it has AI? If your mouse doesn't have AI, you're living in the past

Edit: ~~post~~ past

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[–] linrilang@lemmy.world 56 points 16 hours ago

We detected you moved your mouse. Downloading 1GB of AI telemetry and 3GB of user experience optimizations…

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 43 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck electron, fuck "web first" apps, fuck the "all application in the future will be websites" mentality.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Man, they really developed the most unfun layout system and then tried to force it to everyone

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 40 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

The mouse driver used with the Commodore 64's GEOS operating system uses 3 blocks on disk, less than a kilobyte.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Most of the reason why the Logitech driver is so gargantuan is a separate Chromium browser instance, because someone thought that apps should be all websites first, which lead to most GUI libraries being developed for javascript and most devs being taught to be web developers.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

VSCode is also electron with a 100mb download size and 400mb install size. I think it has 1000x more functionality than some shit Logitech UI where you change LED colors. This sounds more like incompetence on the Logitech team than a problem with electron itself.

It's not like traditional methods of packing apps are without problems. If I want to install the qbittorrent flatpak on Ubuntu, it pulls in >1gb of KDE depenencies, so I really don't see how that's better than these dreaded electron apps.

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[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

But did it support RGB?

Didn't think so, checkmate!

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[–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

holy fucking shit. I once programmed a mouse driver for an 8 bit computer with 32kb of ram. I don't remember the exact size of the compiled driver but it was under 1kb.

Today's tech companies probably couldn't even figure out a way to make a hello world in python without it needing 100gb of storage, an Intel Core9/AMD Ryzen 7000 or better, an internet connection and an online user account.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe a Docker or two, perhaps a VM in the cloud. Is that still hip with the kids?

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 25 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not the driver but some bundled configuration & update bloatware.

Back in my days, you had to overwrite some .exe with a "0" to disable Nvidia from spying on you. The overwrite, because they would just download it again if you deleted the .exe.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago

I remember installing a fresh PC with win98. During installation, I disabled some windows bloatware (Imagine! You actually could do this!), and ended up with an unresponsive, non-windows app blocking the system. I killed that app and removed it from the system. Keep in mind that at this point, no network connection was set up, nor did I install any driver or program yet, this was straight from the windows install medium.

After reboot, the app was back, and again blocking the system.

Wiping the harddisk and starting installation over did not help either.

Turned out this was some bloatware installed by the BIOS whenever it detected at boot that there was a) a Windows installation that was b) "missing" their "register your PC with us" app. This needed some Windows bloatware to work, and thus failed on this machine.

This was the only time I angrily screamed at a hotline worker.

[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

The software, afaik there is no actual driver involved.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't contribute at all to the conversation but BOOOOOOO to them for that nonsense.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

That "logi" rebrand really shows how shit they've gotten.

Logitech Gaming Software was the last good thing they made.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please don't be Logitech, please don't be Logitech...

Damnit.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Of Course it's Logitech. Their software has been shit for ages.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 20 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

what the fuck?? why would a mouse need ai? ancient computer user here who is very confused lol

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

To better track you. I mean, "enhancing your user experience."

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 20 hours ago
[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 16 points 21 hours ago

The driver consumes a few KB. The bullshit software that you don't need to install is what's consuming the GB.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We live in the age of bloated software.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like SpaceSniffer, it is almost 10 years old program and I still use it

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 13 points 23 hours ago

My first mouse driver was smaller than the picture you attached to this post

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

i wonder if a open source driver alternative exists.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 51 points 8 hours ago (13 children)

Piper is less than 2MB, and allows reconfiguring Logitech mouse buttons. It's available in Debian and Ubuntu package managers.

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I had to use Piper to get exotic features like having mouse 6, 7, 8 buttons function as mouse 6, 7, 8, rather than the default of alt-tab and ctrl-v.

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[–] aesopjah@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

you could use autohotkey and remap mouse3/4 (or whatever they are) to C-c and C-v

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I have several Logitech peripherals. Why in the fuck does it need AI?!?!

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

Space Sniffer gang represent!

[–] corroded@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My installation process for a new mouse is as follows: 1 - Attempt to plug it in. 2 - Flip the USB connector. 3 - Plug it in. 4 - Use the mouse.

Is there anything at all to be gained from installing the software that comes with the mouse? Even with extra side buttons, I've never had anything not work out of the box.

Edit: OP is remapping buttons. Got it.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Lights, dpi configuration, polling rate settings, surface calibration, and (as you mentioned) button remapping. Yes it will work without that but it can work better (and personally that’s worth a little extra ram anyways)

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't look up how much space Nvidia drivers take then.

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