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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 164 points 2 days ago (15 children)

led crowds in chants of “free, free Palestine” and “death, death to the IDF” [The BBC said:] “The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable ... " [Starmer said:] “appalling hate speech.”

"Free Palestine" is not antisemitic. Criticism of a nation state's armed forces is not antisemitic. Especially when those armed forces are objectively committing genocide.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pfft...

Only the rational and reasonable buy into what you're putting forth here...

Which completely and entirely excludes any/all MAGAts and other assorted fascist/authoritarian types that appear to be consuming gov'ts globally.

🤡 🖕 💩 💩

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also excludes pretty much every establishment Democrat

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I think the issue is the other chant, now I’m not saying that is anti-Semitic at all as that’s insane.

For what it’s worth fuck the IDF, terrorist assholes.

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[–] atk007@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (4 children)

When did IDF become a protected minority group? Is saying "Death to Nazis" not allowed in the UK?

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What a shitty article. It's so heavily biased in favor of genocide.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 77 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are literally all doing this. There is more confected outrage about this than the actual slaughter of civilians by the IDF. I feel like I'm going mad.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 17 points 2 days ago

They are engaging in an absolutely ridiculous campaign of gaslighting. It's so outlandish and over-the-top that it would actually be hilarious if it was on a lighter subject matter rather than genocide, terrorism, and a litany of war crimes.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 20 points 2 days ago

Happy cake day!

They didn't even do the most basic of work to attempt to put forward a front of journalistic integrity. They didn't give Vylan a chance to respond to the article.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope the entire world's eyes are by this point open to the hypocrisy of the West. Kneecap and Bob Vylan being labeled outrageous or on trial for terrorism for... words, while weapons shipments continue to flow to the IDF, Netanyahu (with an arrest warrant for war crimes) flies through EU airspace unhindered, and the bombing of civilians in Gaza generates less news than a chant at a concert. Absolutely disgusting.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Disgust and rage doesn't come close to expressing my emotions.

This is the capitalist hydra they created- money equals morality. How can we be evil if we're making so much money selling weapons to a genocidal terrorist state? What was that, you don't like it? Sssh, if you hurt our cash cow we will hurt YOU.

Worshipping the golden fucking calf.

Capitalism is a form of government where instead of citizens having one vote each, they have one vote per dollar they own. It's a cult, and it's a fucking cancer, and it will kill us all if we don't stop it.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Oh, don't discount the Racism.

People aren't being investigated by police for criticizing Russia.

If it was only about money, they wouldn't have reacted as they did to Russia's invasion of Ukraine given all the money many were making from Russian fossil fuels and mineral wealth.

The big difference in the reaction to Russia's Genocide in Ukraine and to Israel's Genocide in Gaza (which is way worse both in numbers and in how many of the civilians being murdered are small children) is that in Ukraine the victims are Whites as are the aggressors whilst in Gaza the victims are (brown) Muslims whilst the aggressors are Whites.

At least amongst the power elites, especially in places like the US, UK and Germany, White Colonialism isn't just this old 19th century practice we fortunatelly left behind, rather it's a way of viewing the world which very much alive and widelly held.

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 64 points 2 days ago

Thank you for the sacrifice Vylan

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

To be honest I had never heard of Bob Vylan before, so the people screaming they should be banned (so they dont become known?) reached the opposite effect, at least for me personally.

Same never heard of them, but now streaming them to show support. They’re playing in my city on Saturday so might pop down.

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[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

I was going to link their merch store so people can keep supporting them, but almost everything is already sold out lol

Death to the IDF.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Meanwhile, the nazi IDF can come and go and take a break from genocide in the US and the rest of the these European countries

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 35 points 2 days ago

We need to start banding together and voting these pro-genocide politicians out of office.

Oh, AIPAC supports you? Enjoy getting primaried. Watching their heads spin when Cuomo lost to Mamdani was fucking gold.

[–] mitexleo@buddyverse.one 34 points 21 hours ago

Israel has killed at least 100 people waiting for aid since dawn.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

“From the river to the sea, Inshallah one day Palestine will be free!” Yeah what a vicious chant.

C.E.A.R.T.A. and Death Death to the IDF!

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 32 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Okay, I'm gonna say something very controversial, and the mods might not like it, but hear me out:

Adolf Hitler deserved to die. If I had a gun and he was alive standing in front of me, I would have aimed the gun to his head, and repeatedly pull the trigger until I ran out of ammo, then reload, and keep shooting at him until I can confirm that he is indeed dead.

DEATH, DEATH TO ADOLF HITLER!

Tell me, is this "advocacy of violence"?

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[–] Siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 23 hours ago

The inhuman madness of finding the problem regarding this situation to be protestors of Israel's genocide, and not the genocide, is as absurd and abhorrent as it is overwhelming.

Let's get outraged about and strive to cancel and imprison someone who used violent language at a force that is mass-murdering children. Just surreal. What leads someone to become this fucking detached from their humanity? It's just incomprehensible.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 27 points 2 days ago

Hell yeah, if you're not ready to loose something you're not protesting right.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel will be remembered in the History books the same way Germany circa 1930's is today.

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Amani@lemmy.today 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

America is not only the enabler of Israel, The American government is the one pulling the strings. America is as much a Nazi state as Israel, And when they are done with the Middle East they will find someone else to exterminate. We are all in danger.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

Not only US, Germany, France, UK, Italy, and most likely Canada, and Australia. With a genocide you don't get to stay silence, if you are not even condemning the genocide, that mean you are part of the bad guys.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago

No I'm sure that's an absolutely wonderful use of their time. Maybe they can post about this on Twitter rather than the 3g of weed that they seized.

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can we rename the Streisand Effect to Vylan Effect now?

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