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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 138 points 1 day ago (6 children)

led crowds in chants of “free, free Palestine” and “death, death to the IDF” [The BBC said:] “The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable ... " [Starmer said:] “appalling hate speech.”

"Free Palestine" is not antisemitic. Criticism of a nation state's armed forces is not antisemitic. Especially when those armed forces are objectively committing genocide.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pfft...

Only the rational and reasonable buy into what you're putting forth here...

Which completely and entirely excludes any/all MAGAts and other assorted fascist/authoritarian types that appear to be consuming gov'ts globally.

🤡 🖕 💩 💩

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also excludes pretty much every establishment Democrat

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago

Of course, it is both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats, who are causing a problem in the UK government.

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I think the issue is the other chant, now I’m not saying that is anti-Semitic at all as that’s insane.

For what it’s worth fuck the IDF, terrorist assholes.

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[–] atk007@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When did IDF become a protected minority group? Is saying "Death to Nazis" not allowed in the UK?

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What a shitty article. It's so heavily biased in favor of genocide.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are literally all doing this. There is more confected outrage about this than the actual slaughter of civilians by the IDF. I feel like I'm going mad.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 15 points 21 hours ago

They are engaging in an absolutely ridiculous campaign of gaslighting. It's so outlandish and over-the-top that it would actually be hilarious if it was on a lighter subject matter rather than genocide, terrorism, and a litany of war crimes.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago

Happy cake day!

They didn't even do the most basic of work to attempt to put forward a front of journalistic integrity. They didn't give Vylan a chance to respond to the article.

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

There was a really interesting podcast on the AP style and its entrenched biases - but only available to subscribers:

https://www.canadaland.com/podcast/bonus-who-writes-the-rules-of-news/

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 73 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hope the entire world's eyes are by this point open to the hypocrisy of the West. Kneecap and Bob Vylan being labeled outrageous or on trial for terrorism for... words, while weapons shipments continue to flow to the IDF, Netanyahu (with an arrest warrant for war crimes) flies through EU airspace unhindered, and the bombing of civilians in Gaza generates less news than a chant at a concert. Absolutely disgusting.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Disgust and rage doesn't come close to expressing my emotions.

This is the capitalist hydra they created- money equals morality. How can we be evil if we're making so much money selling weapons to a genocidal terrorist state? What was that, you don't like it? Sssh, if you hurt our cash cow we will hurt YOU.

Worshipping the golden fucking calf.

Capitalism is a form of government where instead of citizens having one vote each, they have one vote per dollar they own. It's a cult, and it's a fucking cancer, and it will kill us all if we don't stop it.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Oh, don't discount the Racism.

People aren't being investigated by police for criticizing Russia.

If it was only about money, they wouldn't have reacted as they did to Russia's invasion of Ukraine given all the money many were making from Russian fossil fuels and mineral wealth.

The big difference in the reaction to Russia's Genocide in Ukraine and to Israel's Genocide in Gaza (which is way worse both in numbers and in how many of the civilians being murdered are small children) is that in Ukraine the victims are Whites as are the aggressors whilst in Gaza the victims are (brown) Muslims whilst the aggressors are Whites.

At least amongst the power elites, especially in places like the US, UK and Germany, White Colonialism isn't just this old 19th century practice we fortunatelly left behind, rather it's a way of viewing the world which very much alive and widelly held.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 62 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the sacrifice Vylan

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was going to link their merch store so people can keep supporting them, but almost everything is already sold out lol

Death to the IDF.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

collapsed inline mediaBack of a T-shirt with a sketch of a running person. It reads "Bob Vylan Running Club" with bubbles that say "Run for peace" and "And from police"

Fuck that is an awesome design.

Shame it (a) appears to be cotton (not the material I want to be running in), and (b) is sold out.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

It's all sold out. Everyone wants a piece of Bob Vylan. I hope they do "death to the idf" t shirts.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Wait, I thought we hated Shopify? (Cause of the data breach.)

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Not to mention that they were happily selling Kanye West's Nazi clothing until the press and social media called them out for it.

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[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 45 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

To be honest I had never heard of Bob Vylan before, so the people screaming they should be banned (so they dont become known?) reached the opposite effect, at least for me personally.

Same never heard of them, but now streaming them to show support. They’re playing in my city on Saturday so might pop down.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I've been upping the listenership for kneecap and Bob vylan for about a month now. Saving for hard copies to help support. This all reminds me of the satanic panic that was so common when I was a kid. Such fuckery to suppress an idea.

[–] Vizzerdrix@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, discovered an interesting artist through this

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 32 points 21 hours ago

We need to start banding together and voting these pro-genocide politicians out of office.

Oh, AIPAC supports you? Enjoy getting primaried. Watching their heads spin when Cuomo lost to Mamdani was fucking gold.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 26 points 1 day ago

Hell yeah, if you're not ready to loose something you're not protesting right.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheTurner@lemmy.zip 8 points 16 hours ago

The chant has been living rent free in my mind for days now.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

Israel will be remembered in the History books the same way Germany circa 1930's is today.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 11 hours ago

No I'm sure that's an absolutely wonderful use of their time. Maybe they can post about this on Twitter rather than the 3g of weed that they seized.

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 9 points 16 hours ago

Can we rename the Streisand Effect to Vylan Effect now?

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, the nazi IDF can come and go and take a break from genocide in the US and the rest of the these European countries

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[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

“From the river to the sea, Inshallah one day Palestine will be free!” Yeah what a vicious chant.

C.E.A.R.T.A. and Death Death to the IDF!

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Nwo is the old governments.

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