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At this stage the whole Lemmy project feels like a CIA experiment, part of some as-of-yet unknown group of experiments / operation given a vague name. All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference. It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.

Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.

This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but... it hasn't.

I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy, Let the abuse and downvotes ensue.

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[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Is the resident Lemmy population becoming too easy to troll?

Hello lemmings are you all left wing because you are CIA and racist? Also if you go outside you will not hate car

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[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Not that I entirely disagree, but..

This could be easily fixed in the coding of Lemmy, but… it hasn’t.

I'm not sure how this could be fixed on the software level? Care to elaborate? Or even better, write up an issue + PR which proposes the "easy fix".

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

if (content == political) {
content.censor = true
};

It's like you don't want this.

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Shit sorry, ~~the CIA told me not to point out~~I forgot that all content already automatically carries the political flag if it contradicts OP's political biases, and thus all we need to do is check for that and censor accordingly.

[–] catty@lemmy.world -4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't that it contradicts any political biases. But, it's like, ok, enough, we get it, yawn, now for positive stuff like hobbies, fun stuff, not the same whinging circle jerk over and over again.

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, sorry, I was being a bit catty with that reply. But algorithmically identifying something as "whinging circle jerk" is really difficult unless you wanna throw away the baby with the bathwater. I think someone elsewhere in the thread recommended creating a second account just for the hobby communities, if you wanna avoid the political memery. If the hobby communities feel quiet, well, you have the power to change that by posting something there.

[–] catty@lemmy.world -5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't worry. As a little experiment, I've found time and time again across a whole range of social media sites over years, that having a username that some people could perceive as aggressive will get you blocked / banned faster than you would believe. The people of Lemmy are not as different/open as they think they are!

Unfortunately, when I open groups, I get called out that it should be merged with a sort-of-similar group, and then of course, empty groups are hard to start.

Having to take the effort to block all the politics in the first place mean 90% of people won't do it and will get tied up with giving their asshole to each post rather than perhaps what they wanted to come here for in the first place. I believe that doesn't create an overall diverse community. Sentiment analysis is an old and established form of ai that would be useful here.

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago

Don’t worry. As a little experiment, I’ve found time and time again across a whole range of social media sites over years, that having a username that some people could perceive as aggressive will get you blocked / banned faster than you would believe. The people of Lemmy are not as different/open as they think they are!

You get banned for having the username "catty"? Seriously?

Unfortunately, when I open groups, I get called out that it should be merged with a sort-of-similar group, and then of course, empty groups are hard to start.

I mean is that a bad thing that groups get merged? Lemmy ain't reddit, and if you wanna follow niche (or even not-so-niche) hobbies here, it's usually better to have one group with 10 people in it rather than 5 groups with 2 people in it. If you wanna hang around in your 2-person group, no one's gonna ban you for doing so.

Having to take the effort to block all the politics in the first place mean 90% of people won’t do it and will get tied up with giving their asshole to each post rather than perhaps what they wanted to come here for in the first place. I believe that doesn’t create an overall diverse community.

If you joined an instance where 90% of the default communities offend you, maybe you should consider joining another instance?

Sentiment analysis is an old and established form of ai that would be useful here.

You'd use sentiment analysis how, exactly?

[–] catty@lemmy.world -4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, I'm thinking controls for a better feed that doesn't give voice to the constant political crap, more control over it, better blocking of post bots and AI slop generating bots.

Honestly, I'd rather just look for a better server with less politically outspoken nobodies.

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 7 points 16 hours ago

Since according to you this is an easy coding issue that no one's bothered to implement, how would you from a technical standpoint implement those improvements?

[–] lukstru@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I am really confused by the community this was posted in. Is it a genius shitpost or someone not understanding how social media works?

[–] eta@feddit.org 8 points 19 hours ago

This is by far not the first time aswell. I've noticed that there are a lot of people that seem to interpret this community as "a place to post your random shit to".

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Leaves echo chamber ahhh WTF!

I post hobby stuff I'm working on. Everybody seems to care very little. I try to say stop being assholes and people hate for it.

Bias here seems typical for tech geekigarchy. After 2 years on Lemmy – echo chambers are also self selecting and self filtering.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If your feed has lots of ai i would also recommend blocking some posters, though in my experience lemmy has way more anti ai and downvoting of annything ai then whatever is left of the mainstream networks.

Another recomendation is to join a smaller instance you align with, you will have a much better experience.

Yes we do go rather hard left. Especially when it comes to the only war that counts, the class war, ruling elites versus the exploited masses. Its part of what makes this place so refreshing because corporate media heavily dislikes the need for global change. Causing people that agree to flock here.

And yes you can easily get radicalized here, another thing which is refreshing is how up front and not secretive people are about the fact we do alot of self propaganda for our personal flavor of ideals. After all lemmy is not for children (suprisingly many older people) you have to form your own opinions and people tend to be (on average) more respectfull towards diversity in idealogy. You don’t get insta downvoted as much as you get honest replies of someone wanting to discuss it.

[–] Xulai@mander.xyz 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a citizen or fed that is fat on propaganda swallowed whole and without thought is angry that others don’t share his delusions.

[–] remon@ani.social 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy is best enjoyed with a very extensive blocklist.

[–] catty@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Can I block whole communities out of my feed?

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure. Just go to the community and select "block community" in the sidebar. (Or go to the settings -> blocks -> and type it into the search bar).

[–] catty@lemmy.world -4 points 16 hours ago

Thanks, didn't know that!

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Hmmm, the CIA is against class warfare (in the sense that you are using it here).

Different servers have different communities. You should look at the local timeline of various servers to find a server that perhaps suits you better than lemmy.world

You should also subscribe to communities on various servers to see the kinds of things you enjoy. Like cats or aww. Various birds always seem to have a lot of engagement across the Fediverse.

Class warfare exists whether you engage in it or not. When capital gains is taxed less than salaries for labour, that's class warfare. When the success of a government is measured by the gains of investments like stocks and real estate rather than the economic circumstances of the majority of the people, that's class warfare.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

PS the Fediverse in general skews a bit older. It's generally the more tech savvy people that have become exhausted by big tech platforms.

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Precisely. I’m a millennial, and this place has a decidedly millennial vibe. Linux nerds, privacy advocates, people seeking an alternative to the slop of mainstream social media. I would imagine people under 25 are a rarity here.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There's a fair history of security services acting as agents provocateur infiltrating socialist and trade union movements to split them apart get evidence or 'intel' to imprison leaders. Certainly in the UK that was a part of their union busting tactics. So it is something to be aware of.

I'm not sure that is what is happening on here though. I'm also not sure if that's what OP was referring to.

[–] catty@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's the exact thing I meant and didn't realise I had to be explicit as I thought this would be common knowledge amongst these vocal self-proclaimed worldly people. It happens with any extremist group, terrorist cells or potential threats to the government and where better to obtain such information than online? It's naive to think the world's governments don't also have a lemmy presence with relevant operations. "oh but we're too smol, they wouldn't bother waaahh" is exactly what such organisations would want the community to think.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Stick around, you might learn something for once.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Do you apply it for Xitter/Farcebook?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I'm becoming very di-senlightened by Lemmy

You sure don't seem very senlightened, let alone twice so.

If you're not young, then you've had longer to observe systemic bullshit, so I'm not sure why you're trying to imply that people should become dumber and more other-blind over time.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Do you have any evidence of major AI generated memes and comments? Sometimes I see an obvious AI image (and down vote it), and some communities are made for the purpose of AI so I blocked them. But aside from that, have you found much generative AI slop?

And if so, how would you fix that in code? Some sort of captcha? I think the volume is low enough that it wouldn't help.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Imagine thinking Lemmy is propagandizing people into these beliefs and not just the one platform that's not relentlessly shoving the capitalist boot down everyone's throat and allowing for semi-genuine conversation like you rarely see in corpo social media.

Like, sure, it's Lemmy that's pushing the narrative of class warfare and no other platform has that kind of talk but hidden by mod abuse. Nope, just Lemmy, clearly.

Maybe this is a selfawarewolf post.....

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

We all went through phases of "I wanna be in the known!" Hell, it's basically UFO Obsession capitalised by the gov.

But there's no "big secret". People just aren't ready to hear it and will continue to search for it.

Normally I'd say give the guy a break... But he shows zero interest to change.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.

All the content is on the extremist-side, enforces attitudes perfect to embolden class wars ...

Yes, unironically and openly, I support and advocate for class war against the capitalist class. The capitalist class wages their class war against the working class every single day in every single facet of modern existence. It's well past time we start fighting back as an exercise of our own individual and collective self-defense. Class consciousness should never have been controversial, and it is only controversial because it encourages people to challenge capitalism.

... and young people (no doubt the majority of people here) aren't worldly enough to know the difference.

You don't need any political knowledge to know my positions. I am literally an anarchist, and I have said so loudly and often. Like me, most of these "extremists" are open socialists and communists and will readily tell you their views and ideologies (many of whom I emphatically disagree with from their left, but I somehow suspect you would consider me just as "extreme", namely for challenging the utility and inevitability of capitalism).

Where's the trove of knowledge? The awesome positive hobbies? If it's around, it's all drown out by the manipulative noise.

Yes, it is a shame that capitalism drowns out all our hobbies, all our positive experiences, everything so completely that we need to waste so much bandwidth drowning out the manipulative noise peddled by capitalists on almost every other platform.

It's full of AI-generated political memes and comments.

I don't recommend completely blocking yourself off from politics forever, but if you really need to take a temporary break like everyone deserves, I recommend making an alt account with all political communities and posters blocked. But keep in mind...you might be done with politics, but politics is never done with you. In particular, capitalism is never gonna ask your permission to use and abuse you.

And really, this is a special case of the fact that you need to curate your own feed. Some other social networks do this for you in ways that compromise your privacy and, frankly, brainwash people into accepting the neoliberal monoculture.

[–] catty@lemmy.world -3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

IMO Lemmy has revealed that people around the world are more left-leaning and class conscious than I thought back when I was on R*ddit.

Not wanting to rain on your parade, but that's what an echo chamber does.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago

Exactly, that's what a neoliberal echo chamber like R*ddit does. It reinforces neoliberal monoculture. So it's not shocking that, when I leave that neoliberal echo chamber, the world seems a lot less neoliberal.

[–] ViperActual@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

This is a case of being the change you want to see in the world. The fediverse contains content you subscribe to or create. It's trivial to block content you don't want to see. It's still small enough that you can effect visible change on it. And if you're not seeing content you want to see, are able to post that content.