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U.S. Department of Defense announced Tuesday it would no longer process and deliver data essential to most hurricane forecasts

On Monday, the U.S. Department of Defense announced it would immediately stop ingesting, processing, and transmitting data essential to most hurricane forecasts.

The announcement was formalized on Tuesday when NOAA distributed a service change notice to all users, including the National Hurricane Center, that by next Monday, June 30th, they would no longer receive real-time microwave data collected aboard three weather satellites jointly run by NOAA and the U.S. Department of Defense.

The permanent discontinuation of data from the Special Sensor Microwave Imager Sounder (SSMIS) will severely impede and degrade hurricane forecasts for this season and beyond, affecting tens of millions of Americans who live along its hurricane-prone shorelines.

The news on Tuesday sent users across the weather and climate community – including those monitoring changes to sea ice extent in the polar regions – scrambling to understand the rationale behind the abrupt termination. Though not immediately clear why the real-time data was suddenly discontinued, the decision appears to have stemmed from Department of Defense security concerns.

Officials at the National Hurricane Center were also caught off guard by the announcement and are preparing their team for the loss of critical forecast data for the rest of the hurricane season.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 134 points 1 day ago (4 children)

what the actual chicken fried fuck?

did they do this because they don't want data about climate change to exist? don't these fuckwads know how much shipping companies rely on that information? not to mention the actual fucking navy

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows

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[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

It creates a need that a private company can then fill. It's greed and grift all the way down with these fucks.

Edit: (Bonus fuckery when they sell the existing instruments to said company for a "pay to play" access to information that was historically always free)

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Navy still gets the data, NOAA is getting cut off.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 37 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

i can't fucking believe we have to deal with this toddler stomping his feet about his stupid wrong weather statement being contradicted that one time by an agency whose entire purpose for existence is studying and forecasting the weather

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago

Truly clownworld

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You have to wonder why the administration's trying to make Americans less safe. You don't have to wonder that I know why, but you should ask him. Constantly. Loudly.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

With this and FEMA being drawn down I'm guessing Trump wants to create cheap real estate for his rich friends to buy up. If you can't rebuild you'll move and take what you can get for the rubble you used to call home.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Killing adult Americans is part of the plan to get the population to trend younger again. However you can take out adult Americans and increase infant Americans will be taken advantage of

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[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 67 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Holy shit, they actually fucked over NOAA.

Fucking why.

They literally do nothing but benefit the world.

I am so tired of this shit, either let me fuck off and live in the woods so I never have to interact with this again or just end everything now, the world they are building isn't worth living in.

Fuck.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago

Fucking why.

Because it will cause major issues, people will demand a replacement, and a private company owned by someone who bribed Trump will swoop in and "save" everyone with a subpar solution that is worse and cost more.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 14 hours ago

Fucking why

Because the data shows climate change, so it must be filtered.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 18 points 12 hours ago

think about how much more you could charge poor people if they get severely injured by the hurricane

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

Petty revenge for not agreeing with trump's sharpie forecast.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They get off on hurting people. They want to hurt everyone but themselves, and sucking up to them only delays the harm they will cause to you. They don't care how they're remembered, as long as people keep saying their names.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They don't care how they're remembered, as long as people keep saying their names.

This is the only thing that could explain Musk's actions of the last several months as a believable rational choice. He realized he is not going to be around to see immortality or brain downloads or whatever, so he has to make his name and image immortal instead.

Of course, there are numerous other reasons that could explain it, many of them personality flaws.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago

Remember kids, when WFP asked Musk to feed every starving person in the world for a year for just 6 billion dollars, or 2% of his wealth at the time, he gave the money to his own foundation instead.

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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 64 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

About project 2025:

The plan, spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, says that the weather service should “fully commercialize its forecasting operations” and focus on providing data to private companies.

It also calls for a “review” of the work of the National Hurricane Center. It acknowledges that the center provides important public safety information, but also says its data should be presented “neutrally” rather than in a way that makes points about climate change.

Edit: here is the source of the quote, an article from September 2024 https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4907338-heritage-foundation-plan-weather-service/

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Huh. Wow. So they actually did project this plan. And it really is about commercialization of weather forecasting and denying climate change. America is so deeply fucked from letting him get elected... ugh.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All by themselves, weather forecasting satellites justify every dollar put into space programs. The lives saved are incalculable. We are squandering that benefit for no reason whatsoever.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 15 points 23 hours ago

Sure there is a reason.

Cause a big enough catastrophe and you can declare Martial Law.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

In lieu of actual vital data, the DOD will be sending out tRump-branded black Sharpies.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Officials were caught off guard? What do you mean? Was anybody watching the last election and reading project 2025? None of this is a shock.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 hours ago

Yeah they voted for him but they didn't actually think he'd do those things.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 33 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You know what?

Go ham. The south Atlantic coast and the gulf coast voted for this. Now comes the “find out” part. I am genuinely out of fucks to give. Enjoy your hurricanes and the non-response you’ll get from the now-gutted FEMA. See if I fucking care. Have fun machine-gunning your own foot.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Privatize the weather lmao

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 30 points 22 hours ago

It's silly to invest in all this expensive technology when you can just look out a window and draw these things with a sharpie.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

This was originally in the DOGE plan. What took so long to process? I've been watching for news on this catastrophic decision.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

including those monitoring changes to sea ice extent in the polar regions

Ah, there it is. Kicking climate change under the carpet again, I see.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 25 points 10 hours ago

As ever, the Trump Regime is a colony of dumb and malicious assholes.

Trump is making himself the enemies of farmers and coastal communities alike. If I were an evil overlord, I would want my logistics to be rock solid.

🤦

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Apparently hurricanes, which are the only outside force that regularly invades and obliterates American cities on American soil, costing billions in damages, multiple times a year...

... are not as important as these undisclosed "security concerns" that DoD somehow finds more important/immediate.

What's the real story? Protecting Americans from hurricanes is too "woke" or something?

[–] nuxi@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Probably the longstanding GOP goal of privatizing everything. To get public support for that, they first have to cripple the public service.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They think that if they don't look at the hurricanes then they won't make landfall.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

It's the covid testing strategy all over again

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Other than this being Putin Puppetry, I have no idea who would think this is good.

We're castrating FEMA and NOAA. What is the benefit?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Can't afford to rebuild? Zillow will take that pesky property of your hands for a fraction of the price it's worth.

That's the benefit. It's a great idea honestly if your goal is to destroy the housing market for short term profits

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[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

Fuck Florida? Fuck MAGA voters down south? Crash insurance and banking markets? Crash US dollar and raise inflation?

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago

Can some one send this mother fucker on his way already?

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Why don't people realize Dear Leader (and his Sharpie) is all that's required for ultimately accurate and divinely inspired hurricane forecasting??

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Waiting, sadly, for GPS to go back to being obfuscated again. It's bound to happen. Want GPS? You gotta pay.

Seems off topic, I know, but they did this (hurricane) by turning off satellite feeds

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Luckily, the EU also has Galileo, and Russia has GLONASS (skeptical about the latter, but it exists).

Nearly every GPS-capable device has access to both of those as well as the US-based GPS.

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 17 points 8 hours ago

Get ready for sharpie hurricane forecasting!

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Any hurricane that comes by surprise will be nuked, not to worry.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't Trump's house in Florida?

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

One day we will all rejoice in the destruction of that shit hole.

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[–] BipolarSilence@lemm.ee 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

Because having less knowledge always works out. Between this and the loss of FEMA, we should get even more "I didn't vote for this". Yes, you did. You just weren't listening.

[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

scrambling to understand the rationale behind the abrupt termination

Stop trying to look for any rationale behind anything this administration does. There is none.

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