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[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 114 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

So fishing for sport where they catch and release is basically torture by getting injured by the hook and then asphyxiating for however long they are out of water before being released.

[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 160 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yup. But deep down we all kinda knew that, right? It was always fish torture for sport.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Now I'm wondering where noodling is on this scale.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure a lot of people legitimately do not see fish as more than objects, and I mean they never fully made the connection not that they do it intentionally.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It never made sense to me that “fish don’t feel pain”. Like, even as a kid I didn’t understand why they wouldn’t. Who would be okay with a metal hook through their mouth? Even if they didn’t feel the same kind of pain we do (I’m sure they do), there’s got to be some part of their body screaming that things aren’t okay. Add on top of that the sudden inability to breathe and it really is just torture.

I like the idea of fishing (like relaxing on a boat with a goal) but I couldn’t do it

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[–] SmokedBillionaire@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (13 children)

This article in particular is talking about when leaving fish in open air or ice water for the purpose of slaughter. Obviously that would hurt until the fish dies.

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[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The stats on fish survival after being caught and released is actually pretty sad. If I remember correctly there was a lengthy study that showed a survival rate of only like 40%.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Was this the fish passing after a few minutes, hours, days? If you remember at all. Was there any controlling for gill damage during the catch? I know some idiots who will hold them up by the gills for pictures, I wonder if that causes damage? Or just dying from shock? I wonder if I can find the study

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[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Suddenly all the cutesy indie life sims with fishing minigames don’t seem so wholesome any more

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Feeling like a fish out of water sounds much darker now.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 week ago

Without water, the delicate gill structures that exchange oxygen for carbon dioxide stick together, causing CO2 from respiration to accumulate. These rising levels trigger nociception – the body's alarm system – which causes the fish to gasp. Eventually the elevated CO2 levels acidify the animal's blood and cerebrospinal fluid, ultimately resulting in unconsciousness.

Holy shit. That's horrific.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is why net fishing is so problematic (apart from obvious environmental conserns and bycatch).

Stun your fish people. Don’t let their blood clot and lungs collapse while still conscious for multiple minutes. It’s cruel.

[–] kindernacht@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Let their lungs collapse?...

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yes. The g folds in front and everything shortens.

That's why we call them gls.

[–] ThePunnyMan@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

You can also spike the brain of the fish. There's stuff online about Ikejime which is supposed to be a way to quickly kill the fish to improve the quality of the meat. There's resources online about it.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How about a new sport... Catch the fish under water and slap him a little, but not too hard?

Or how about just riding your rubber boat to where the fish are, then dropping a speaker and shouting "fuck you fish!" Threw the speaker? You could even hurt them intellectually!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's a lot manlier and cooler to stand in the water and grab the fish with your bare hands anyways, then you can look it in the face and tell it to fear god before letting it go

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

You could even do a Hakka and watch the fish pee themselves! But a gentle slaps would also be satiafrying.

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[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So what you're saying is that Kurt Cobain was wrong and it's actually not OK to eat fish because they do, in fact, have feelings?

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[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I believe this is why Japanese fishermen will sometimes use the ikijime method where you kill the fish fast. I believe it also improves the quality of the meat too.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And yet others will prepare Ikizukuri.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ikizukuri (生き作り), also known as ikezukuri (活け造り), (roughly translated as "prepared alive"[1]) is the preparing of sashimi (raw fish) from live seafood. In this Japanese culinary technique, the most popular sea animal used is fish, but octopus, shrimp, and lobster may also be used.[2] The practice is controversial owing to concerns about the animal's suffering, as it is seemingly alive when served.

The restaurant may have one or several tanks of live sea animals for a customer to choose from. There are different styles in which a chef may serve the dish but the most common way is to serve it on a plate with the filleted meat assembled on top of the body.

Ikizukiri may be prepared with only three knife cuts by the chef.[1] They are usually presented with the head still whole so that customers are able to see the continuing gill movements.[3]

look at the video, it's FUCKED UP. they removed all the meat from the fish and kept it alive attempting to breath on the plate covered in food

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikizukuri

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[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Wow that's so fucked up

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

With net fishing, they're still out of the water quite a long time whilst being hauled up, dumped, and sorted before being thrown in their sorted holding tank.

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm still not going to tell you where my secret fishing spot is, no matter how many times you ask or scientific studies you perform.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

there's a trend on TikTok where you catfish (heh) men and ask them what their favorite fishing spot is

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that's why there is Ikejime, the japanese method to dispatch fish

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I just use a fish bonker. A firm strike at the base of the head with a club is instant. I can't say if it preserves the meat as I normally eat it right away or store it for the winter months in the freezer.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why you just shoot them in the head with a harpoon when you take them out of the water

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Most fish are caught using trawling nets, which as far as I know, can be up to 50 miles long. Gonna need a fucking attack helicopter to handle all that.

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[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Bring back dynamite fishing then!

[–] Steelkrill@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Poor thing :(

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was under the impression that to a fish pain is more of a "get out of there" signal than what it is to us.

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