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[–] Justdaveisfine@midwest.social 146 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The unfortunate truth is there are likely a lot of very talented developers at most big studios who ultimately don't have a say on what goes into the game.

Many don't turn around and try making a start-up game though, most just burn out of the industry forever.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The way business is structured in the modern day completely strangles progress and innovation by ignoring and sometimes even punishing workers trying to improve. Companies should be run by workers not businessmen so that there's a focus on the product rather than profit

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I worked at a company run by a SWEngineer.

He was code-smart for code, but really bad for business.

You need to get a real CEO who does management, but keep that person in firm check by mandating half the board be stacked by engineers. Even as advisory roles, like if your company makes widgets you should have some Serious Fucking widget people dominating the board for big decisions.

"You make one thing" is like "you had one job."

(And if you make two things so disparate, spin one off into a sub)

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago

My argument is not "have someone better in charge" rather it's "we should have less hierarchy in the workplace"

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 65 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Ever notice how the best games out there are either indie games or made by ex-devs formerly from a big developer?

Capitalism does away with ingenuity and creativity. Look at the biggest developers, like Ubisoft or Activision or EA, and their most flagship product(s), and you'll see that none of them are inventive in any way, they're all just regurgitated forms of whatever sells.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

No wonder ML text and image generators are so popular with large corporations.

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Played through stray for the first time recently

The game was great, especially for how relatively small the team was, but honestly the reveal of the largest mystery in the game was very underwhelming.

It's still a good game though, I do recommend it.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, your cat thinks you're underwhelming as well, but she's fine with that as long there's food and scritches.

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

scritches

🤎🤎🤎
Awww, and here I thought only my family uses that word.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Scritches and snoot are words to identify people who love their pets

[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

No, no.. It's the proper denomination favoured by our kitten overlords. They whisper it into our ears as we sleep so that we may subconsciously start using it without getting suspicious.

It usually happens only when they plan for long-term associations.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The reveal that

Tap for spoilerthere's a dedicated meow button
? I thought it was incredible.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't wait for upper management to stop trying to make games.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re gonna be waiting a long time lol

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Already have been. Embark (The Finals & Arc Raiders) is an amazing studio that I hope disrupts the industry.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Highly recommend Expedition 33. The game play is exactly what I've been looking for in a game, and the story and world are both amazing.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I want to get into it, I even own it and I've enjoyed the like 4 hours I've played already, I just can't get back into it for some reason.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I am concerned about expedition. Everyone I know that’s played it, finished it in 3 days. That is a lackluster amount of gameplay. And that’s with a job. It’s not like they were no lifeing it or something. It’s on Gamepass though so I’ll play it soon

[–] Occultist0178@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Story is about 30 h and side content another 30, I think that's pretty solid 🤷‍♂️

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I've got 30 hours into it and haven't finished it yet. I feel like it's got a decent amount of gameplay so far. Plus I am already planning a replay once with different party members. I've also heard the story is better in the 2nd playthrough (you don't really figure out wtf is going on until pretty far into the game). Definitely worth checking out, especially if you have Gamepass.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Oh, that makes me wanna play it even more. Every single time I play a big RPG like witcher, cyberpunk, Baldur's Gate, kingdom come, etc. I enjoy the first half and then I just speedrun the rest to finish the story. There's nothing wrong with a 10-30hour game, honestly. Hell, a short hike is like 1-3 hours and I don't feel bad at all for buying it.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

it isn't Ubisoft to thank, it's the "ex". suddenly not having to waste your life peddling more assassin's gray sludge can do wonders for your creativity.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 21 hours ago

It's a sarcastic thank, like thank you for firing them, or thank you for driving them away from AAA studios.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ubisoft is the sexual abuse place right?

...or is that Activision Blizzard?

...or Rockstar Games?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Is there a funny GIF that says "why not all three of them?"?

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean Ubisoft has probably tens of thousands of ex employees

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

And growing!

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Don't forget about Outlast, Astroneer and Sifu!

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Ubisoft itself continues to pump out digital slop

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Anno games

AC Odyssey

Immortals Fenix Rising

Mario x Rabbids games

Prince of Persia TLC

Rocksmith is great for learning guitar

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Mario/Rabbids is the game nobody asked for or expected anything from, and it turned out great. Instead of just a knockoff silly minions game, it was an amazing XCOM-lite with fun environments and suprisingly-deep tactical gameplay.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Too bad they shut down the prince of persia team :(

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

AC Odyssey is 7 years old though. I don't know any of the other titles, but I suspect they are not exactly recent either.

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[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 hour ago

Real talk. Ubisoft in general have made some great games. Their current business model is to pump out repeats of things that worked, and so earn our scorn for them 'as of right now'.

Who played AC 1 and didn't want more. That we're now up to AC 76 doesn't diminish that they made something fun before they beat it to death.

Even their primary accomplishment of making every open-world game follow their formula of '1000 sidequests, item hunts and mini-puzzles' doesn't detract from the fact that those were really fun the first few times.

I wish the best to all the ex-Ubisoft developers. Go make cool shit without the $business oversight$. In an ideal world, the publisher should be there to cover the gaps when a new concept falls flat, not to force developers to keep doing the same profitable thing and otherwise stifle innovation.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 5 hours ago

never knew Stray was made by a ex-ubisoft employee

[–] SilverShark@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Stray is such an amazing game. Real work of art. I love how we discover more and more of the story of this world.

I can't wait to play Expedition 33.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I love how theres always someone in the comments that's like "this game is so mid" or "this one mechanic in the game is missing"

Stray was fantastic. So was expedition 33. Both of them are objectively good with overwhelming positive reviews.

They were successful in everyway a game can me... But according to some bloke it was "mid". Jesus.

I hate how people think how much they like something automatically qualifys that as an official critique. It doesn't. How much you like it is totally irrelevant!

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

They're just giving their opinion man

too many pixels in this image

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