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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46649349

I'm saving up for a new phone and I'm thinking of getting a foldable one.
Are they really as good/bad as people say they are?

The one I had in mind was the Pixel Fold.

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Advantages:

  • The screen is protected when the phone is closed
  • It allows for a larger screen while maintaining portability

Disadvantages:

  • The screen is plastic, instead of glass. Meaning it is very easy to scratch
  • The screen has a hump where the hinge is
  • The hinge can get dirt in it, at which point you start developing lots of problems
  • They are very expensive

I personally buy mid-budget phones, which means these aren't even a consideration. But, I probably wouldn't buy one even at the same price due to the plastic screens being very easy to scratch and a larger screen not having much value for me. But, really it's up to you what you value in your phone.

[–] Phishr42@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The screen is plastic, instead of glass. Meaning it is very easy to scratch

It's actually a specially made glass that is thin and flexible https://www.schott.com/en-us/expertise/applications/schott-utg-in-foldable-displays. You might be thinking of the factory installed screen protectors on most (all?) foldable phones that is made of plastic.

I had a Galaxy ZFold 4 and there were lots of things I liked about it. The larger screen really does make a big difference for consuming content and looking at/signing documents. I ended up going back to a traditional style phone because I realized that I spent a lot of time thinking about general fragility of my phone in a way that I hadn't before. Cases are significantly more expensive and require adhesives to stay attached. I had a few in warranty repairs from debris in the hinge as well.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s actually a specially made glass that is thin and flexible

The foldable screens scratch at a Mohs hardness level of 2. Glass doesn't scratch until 6.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow... even a finger nail ruins that screen. Shamefully bad design decisions went into making those things if they're THAT fragile.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Screen protectors are back in demand on these. I recently learned they're it ended to be a wear item and are factory installed on the Samsung clam

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Many years ago, I used to have huge phablet that I could only carry in the largest pockets of my jacket. It was also ridiculously thin, and made of glass, which made it very fragile. As a result, I was so worried about bending it or breaking it, that those ideas started to sneak into my dreams! Getting rid of it was a relief.

[–] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

I second this. I broke the screen on my OnePlus Open and just decided to go back to a normal phone and went with a Pixel 9. I’ve since moved to a iPhone SE 2022, it’s so nice having such on a powerful phone in such a small footprint, I just wish the battery life was better.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I use a Galaxy fold, and honestly, you can take my folding phone from my cold dead hands, because there is no other way I'm giving them up.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have a Moto Razr. When opened, it has the form factor of a standard phone, but when closed, it's a perfectly square little block. It's honestly the best form factor I've had in a phone. It's also a 2023 model, so I've had it for about a year and a half at this point, and the screen is still in perfect condition. There is a small ripple in the screen at the fold, but it's only visible when shining direct light on it. You have to be looking for it under specific conditions.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I love mine, but I wasn't going to pay new price for them. But used, it's worth the money. Like you say, it folds down to a very small block and fits in the pocket well. I just make sure I put the outside screen towards my chest (shirt pocket) and never had it fall out like other phones do, since I'm pretty actively moving most days.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a big gimmick guy, I LOVE a good gimmick. I liked my Surface RT with the flat touch keyboard, I liked my Surface Book with the kooky hinge and detachable screen, and I like my Samsung Fold 6.

I flip it open all the time, I like using the GameSir controller on it and turning it into a super emulator, I like watching YouTube on it with the kickstand while I cook, I like actually having one app on the left side, one app on the right.

My god phones got boring, so many dull slabs of glass, it's just nice to have something EXCITING again.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 15 hours ago

My god phones got boring, so many dull slabs of glass, it's just nice to have something EXCITING again.

I totally get this thought, but I'm still concerned about creases forming in the screen on these new foldable phones.

I'd watch some videos on the YouTube channel JerryRig Everything. He does destructive tests on these kinda phones.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Starting with Samsung's Flip5/Fold5 they are solid enough IMHO.

Read several test reports before you buy.

[–] supakaity@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I have a clamshell "z flip 6" prior to that I also has the 3 and before that the 2.

I'm extremely clumsy and always drop my phone. Prior to these flips, my primary reason for upgrading was that I cracked the screen. I've never once cracked the screen on my flip because it's always inside and the case covers the entire outside when folded.

I also haven't observed any issues with the hinge area cracking on any of them. Not sure if I'm just lucky. But I do tend to sit there and stim opening and closing the phone repeatedly so I don't think it's due to my usage.

My partner is a mad keen photographer and has the fold out tablet style one and loves the big screen for viewing photos and websites, but I like the little one because it fits in my tiny pockets and purses.

[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I liked my Samsung fold phone, having the bigger screen was awesome. In the end I went back to sultra series from Samsung because the foldable was too heavy and caused my hands to cramp.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I had a Samsung Fold 3 and then upgraded to a Fold 6 which ended up costing less than half after the trade in bonuses and promotions. It's insanely useful for me to be able to open it up for watching videos, reading books or articles, sketching ideas and more. Being able to just unfold it halfway to stand it up on a table is also pretty useful at times. It definitely enables you to do a lot more things that would've been a pain on a regular phone.

Durability is surprisingly much better than I had expected. I've dropped it a few times and it's still pretty solid, though I've never dropped it while it was open.

I also like that it's narrower than a normal phone and thicker since it really helps for one handed use which is why I'm not a fan of the Chinese ones or the rumours of the Fold 7 being much wider and thinner. Honestly, it's an unpopular opinion but I thought the Fold 3's width was perfect, they just needed to trim the bezels further.

So yea, I can't go back to a regular phone anymore. Even though I spend 70% of the time folded, the 40% where is unfolded more than makes it worth it.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The 10% of the time when it's both folded and unfolded must be sublime.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

They fold it real slow so the quantum state takes up 10% of their phone time

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

This is exactly why I wanted one. Exactly why I then got it, and on discovering it worked exactly like I wanted, I got a better one.

If you've ever wished for a bigger screen on your phone...

(I love toys, gadgets and tech so for me the price point was worth it. Objectively, the higher price I don't think is justified by the higher utility)

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I like it a lot but I have a clamshell. I don't understand the purpose of the other form factors. It really isn't much different from other phones after a while, except you forget about how nobody else's phone closes or fits in their pocket.

I occasionally get remarks about it like "your phone is cool" but literally forget that other people are stuck with the traditional candy bar style.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting, I always thought that was the pointless form factor. I guess I could see it being nice if you have really shallow pockets, although it seems like it would be uncomfortably thick compared to a normal phone when closed.

With the fold style, (especially trifold) It turns into a tablet you can carry in your pocket. Which would be worth it if it wasn't fragile and twice the price of a phone + tablet.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Phablet style phones don't fit comfortably in any pants I've ever worn. I think phones almost, mostly fit up to 5" or so, but most phones are much larger.

The razr when folded is probably less thick than a normal bifold wallet and is half the size of a candy bar phone. It fits closed in every pair of pants i own including pajama pants.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think it depends a lot on the style and size of pants, and it's just a personal preference.

While I prefer smaller phones for how they feel in the hand, all of my pants could easily fit a phone 7" or larger. But if normal phones don't fit in your pockets, then a folding phone makes sense.

Also personally I'm the sort of person who dislikes how bulky traditional wallets are, and I'm bothered by my earbuds case. But point taken that a folding phone still isn't very thick generally.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I have a slim wallet myself. It's not just bulky phones I hate carrying around. I have a keychain that allows me to drop portions of my keys when I don't need something. I like traveling light.

Phablets being in style at the same time as slim fit jeans felt like some kind of special curse from hell.

Another thing I like about the model year razr i bought is that it has only a small display on the outside. I can close the clamshell and disconnect from online junk for a while.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

I believe the proper use cases for the candy bar folds are 2 groups: data-dense users that wish Blackberries and Palm Pilots stuck around or, alternatively, people with poor eyesight. I don't think video consumption is the main use. Maybe Candy Crush XL or something though

[–] qupada@fedia.io 5 points 22 hours ago

In my extended circle of acquaintences and colleagues I know around eight people with folding phones. I have seen ONE of them ever use it open - even in situations where you'd think it'd be great, like sitting at the tables in the office kitchen at lunchtime browsing, almost never used unfolded.

It seems like it should be a great idea, but for the majority of people the majority of the time, it appears to be an otherwise normal phone that's just twice as thick as it needed to be. One of the owners of these devices - who had it bought for them rather than choosing it themself - made that exact complaint to me, in fact.

That said, don't let this put you off. If it's a thing you think you would like, the technology has definitely progressed to the point where the more glaring issues (of reliability, mostly) have been worked out. But definitely spend some time playing with one in a store before committing if you can.

I personally wouldn't. These things are like $1.5K+ USD, but the inner screen can be easily scratched. Hinge is one extra point of failure, although it supposedly last longer than the lifetime of the device, that hinge is where sand can get in and its not dust-tight.

My opinion is that these are rich people toys.

You gotta ask yourself: Do you really need that big of a screen?

[–] fafferlicious@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I have the new pixel fold. The first and most important part is to understand how Google views the warranty on the inner screen.

Within two weeks I had what seemed to be hairline fractures on the inner screen and a potential artifact in the fold crease. I wasn't too worried but I was going to have them check on it. Before I could take it in to the Google store, it snapped. The entire screen flooded black within 14 hours when I went back to the store.

I was informed that this wasn't covered under warranty, but they'd make an exception because i literally bought it two weeks prior.

Their stance is that once the screen is that fatally flawed manufacturing defects and misuse damage (i.e. dropping) looks identical. The curvy bendy middle means the outer edges are under more stress and stiffer so when the screen breaks even from defects or creates impact shatter lines.

Based on this alone, I wouldn't recommend anyone get the phone. Not without expecting to have to pay for the insurance plan and to budget for replacing the inner screen at least once. It's significantly heavier and with the fear of breaking, I have a heavy duty dbrand case. So the phone feels like a bloody brick.

That said, I do love it. And I don't know if I'll go back. I don't know if I'll stick to the form factor either. I do a lot of home server shenanigans on it. Home assistant. Control my tv. I live multi-tasking on it when taking notes. I could buy a phone and a tablet for cheaper. But there's something about just having the extra size always handy rather than having to walk around the house with a mini-tablet.

Just be aware that there are huge, glaring downsides to the form factor before you buy in. It is objectively cool and I love unfolding it. It never doesn't feel futuristic.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 day ago

yes

(it's polarizing and a bit different for different people who want different things. i'm on the "it's abysmal" side)

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Some considerations:

  • Do you prefer to have only the latest technology, regardless of cost? These phones are in flagship price ranges.

  • Are you very careful with your phone? Cases exist, but necessarily protect less of the device. The screen is far more prone to damage, but they are durable enough for daily use if you are a careful person.

  • Are you looking to get/replace both a phone and a tablet? Reviewers tend to say that foldables are not an adequate replacement for a tablet, but people I know personally say that it is more than enough to use as a tablet.

  • What features are you willing to compromise? Foldables often have lower quality cameras, chips, and smaller batteries than similarly priced phones. I'm assuming you have already looked into it, since this is easiest thing to check.

  • Do you just really want a foldable? Honestly, everyone I know who has one loves it. If you like the format then go for it :)

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The screen breaks, don't buy one

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think screens are capable of breaking on all phones.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 points 23 hours ago

I mean, it breaks by itself (from personal experience), by simply folding and unfolding it on a regular basis

Maybe it was a defective model, idk. But there are no real benefits (maybe there are some with a phone --> mini tablet foldable phone)

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago

Watch the screen scratch test by JerryRigsEverything, then watch another scratch test done on another modern non-folding phone (such as the Galaxy S25 or iPhone 16) and you'll see how fragile those bending screens really are.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The spirit breaks under the crushing weight of capitolism.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

To put in in perspective. A Moto G Play is $150 (at retail, not including discounts) and can withstand a razor blade scratching the screen, the inner screen of a foldable phone, which is 10x the cost, cannot withstand a simple fingernail.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

My old coworker came in with the Samsung Z flip. Proudly showing it off. The next week he was back to a standard glass slab because the flip was out for repairs.