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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 170 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, four dead in Ohio.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

This summer I hear the drumming.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 159 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is what 2A is for. This is what Madison feared.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

That is exactly how we embolden fascism. Madison advocated for a well-regulated militia, not 1-2% of the population throwing cinder blocks and M80s. We needed numbers before allowing them to bait us into escalation.

Hegseth has the Marines standing by, and the Insurrection Act will be next. This is Trump’s Reichstag Fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

Edit: Please share this.

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[–] IckabodKobain@feddit.online 125 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They want another Kent State

[–] mokus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it gonna be Kent State or Tiananmen Square?

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Just saw an ICE truck carrying a bunch of jackboots through Echo Park. Don't know where they're ultimately heading to though.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago

hopefully they're headed to the Santa Monica pier, where they accidentally drive off the end and into the ocean

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.

https://archive.ph/3X3Fe

OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.

Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.

e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (20 children)

My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.

I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?

Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.

Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Open carry would have stopped NOTHING.

Flashing a gun at those GI Joe wannabes would have triggered their tiny brains to go into shoot to kill mode, and it would have been a massacre.

These dimwits are trained for full blown military responses. That's easy for them, they have the gear, the training, and the psychopaths to shoot on sight.

What they can't handle is massive civil disobedience, because they can't arrest 100k, 500k, 1 million people who are out there lawfully protesting.

But it's nutjobs like you, or that moron who sped their car at the agents, who will fuck it up for everyone.

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Quick! The Gestapo is running into resistance, send in the SS!"

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 week ago

Threaten the 4th largest economy in the world with leverage you don't really have. Encourage escalation tactics for illegal detainment of peoples under the jurisdiction and protection of the Constitution. Ignore the Constitution and normalize the absurd use of the term deportation. Cry about it on social media and then throw a fit and send troops to peaceful protests ( as per LAPD ).

Frail ideology.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Holy fuck. Some finally have the balls to stand up and fight and a bunch of you are all...this is wrong. Escalation and violence is not ok...or...but they have so many big guns.

Your country is run by a fucking dictator. Your own people are being forcefully removed from their homes and families and put in concentration camps.

Unbelievable.

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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago (5 children)

“Insurrectionists carrying foreign flags are attacking immigration enforcement officers, while one half of America’s political leadership has decided that border enforcement is evil,” Vice President JD Vance said in a post on X Saturday night.

Big yikes. "Insurrectionists"? Bloody hell.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every accusation is an admission.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conservatism was the original reactionary movement, and it essentially sought to restore the nobility within democracy, complete with the different rules applying to said ingroup. Modern conservatism only differing in the sense that its supporters really want to become part of said ingroup.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Someone get my NWA CD and boombox, we hitten the streets.

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[–] who@feddit.org 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I would like to see California boldly and forcefully repel this invasion, but I don't know how it would work.

The California National Guard is part of the National Guard of the United States, a dual federal-state military reserve force.

When National Guard troops are called to federal service, the president serves as Commander-In-Chief. The federal mission assigned to the National Guard is: "To provide properly trained and equipped units for prompt mobilization for war, national emergency or as otherwise needed."

The governor of California may call individuals or units of the California National Guard into state service during emergencies or special situations. The state mission of the National Guard is: "To provide trained and disciplined forces for domestic emergencies or as otherwise provided by state law."

Role: Organized militia
Size: 24,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_National_Guard

EDIT:

When I look at this as Trump and his gang deliberately inciting conflict with state/local governments in order to have an excuse to seize control from them before the next election, the situation becomes even trickier.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (6 children)

If the governor activates them first, it limits the reasons the president can activate them and override the governor.

Of course Trump would try to do it anyway, meaning the NG commander would have to decide who to follow (and let's be real, it would probably be the president).

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[–] oliver@lemmy.lothians.social 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, we always knew #RATM were right, but no one expected yet another playbook decades after this album was released in 1999. It all feels that unreal... 😔

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"I liked them before they got all political" -- Some Republican dumbass.

I can only assume they thought Bulls on Parade was about a family holiday to the beach.

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[–] match@pawb.social 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

elon could do the funniest thing here and declare open rebellion against tyranny

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The funniest thing he could do is drive a cybertruck off a cliff.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 29 points 1 week ago

*Let the FSD cybertruck drive him off a cliff while demonstrating how good it is at not doing that.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was gonna go with "accidentally share evidence that DJT manipulated the 2024 election results with his help".

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

No need. Here's the data about the failed attempt in 2020 and the successful attempt in 2024.

https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/

https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs

https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0

https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta

First and last links are the data. The middle links are for us stupid people that need to be told how to read the data in the last link.

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[–] match@pawb.social 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Are the Europeans proud of our protests yet?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 week ago

Not yet. Protest harder.

(Secretly proud of you.)

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, Americans always defend their guns because they could use them to rise up against their government. So honestly, although normally considered impressive, you Americans raised our expectations even higher.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We have guns, but the government has even more.

There's not so much gained from escalation. Cameras are still the best weapon, considering how many allegedly sentient organisms still have support for Trump's actions. Media has claimed that "they're only arresting violent illegals", and "they're only using soldiers to stop violent riots". Regretfully, millions of people still believe that. The more evidence we can generate that both are untrue, the more that we can turn the tide.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

escalation is actually an amazing deterrent. protests from the early US prove there is actually a lot to be gained. they can be incredibly effective.

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[–] Cassandra3MadScene@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“…The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this. Try.*

-Karis Nemik, Andor

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

And so it begins.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

the point of protesting is the escalation. this is success.

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[–] malloc@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What’s to stop Cali national guard from ignoring Orange man? Or maybe I have been watching/reading too much fiction.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Drawing the ire of the federal government. If their commander refuses, he'll be removed and replaced with someone who will comply.

That commander is appointed by the CA governor, and I don't see Newsom fighting the feds on this (or much of anything, really, so far it's only been joint lawsuits against economic issues). Conceivably, Trump could argue that when federalized, he could remove the commander himself and appoint an interim commander, or just leave it unfilled and have DoD control them directly.

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[–] herpypony@pawb.social 21 points 1 week ago

So glad I never joined the National Guard cause I would definitly refuse to go, and if forced, join the side of of the ones fighting ICE.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If this turns into an American Tiananmen Square, you're going to end up knocking a star off that flag.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Could this be the start of the Second American Civil War?

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[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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